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    Posted: May 27 2012 at 4:28pm
I've been reading about dosing 1ml per 10 gallons to kill off dinos. Also I read it works great for a coral dip for any type of algae even bubble. Have any of you tried this? I'm going to use it this week and I'll let you know if my dinos die off.
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From what i have read Prior to your post. IMO i think its a crap shoot.
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I havent heard of that... Hmmm. . . I experiemented with vodka when my biocube went through the uglies. I dosed 5 ml per 10 gallons. Two days later no more dino's. I dont know the side effects though...

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Hydrogen peroxide can be nasty stuff to corals.  I've been experimenting on its mortality rate with SPS, and even diluted to 1/10th strength, it still kills Montipora and Pocillopora as a dip (those are the only two SPS I have in a large quantity.)  It also inhibits calcification.  Corals after a dip have grown slower than the controls (dipped only in plain saltwater) when kept under the same conditions. 
Based on what I've seen with a dip, I won't use it for dosing.  I had what I suspected were dinos, and I didn't do anything to get rid of them except continue maintenance and dose Prodibio BioClean (I swear by the stuff...might be snake oil for all I know though...but I can't explain its benefits otherwise.) 
 
Anyway, I'm writing up my hydrogen peroxide experiment...I'll publish when I am done with the first part.
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I added some yesterday and today and it's cleaning everything up:) I also dipped some Zoas yesterday that were covered in algae and they look great:) I will let you guys know if it ends up killing all the donos. At this rate it looks like it will. All the corals including about 20 acros all look the same as they did before the HP.
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Originally posted by builderofdreams builderofdreams wrote:



From what i have read Prior to your post. IMO i think its a crap shoot.
Good Luck.
Keep us posted.


Sounds like you have been reading in the wrong places as every place I've looked had nothing but pisitive about the topic. I don't doubt there is negative but my tank looks like its killing the bad without any ill effects. Your smart to doubt though as I did at first. The HP may not kill all algae but i would bet it kills most.
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Sorry didnt read anybody responses. 

At the first MWRF they spoke about this, even showed how to do it and examples of what it did. Great stuff. 
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What hobbyists post is much different than what scientific studies are showing. I suggest reading scientific publications before touting the benefits too loud. Like i said, it damages the corals and reduces further calcification.

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One of the problems (IME) is that a dino problem looks alot like a cyano problem and either of those can be combined with an algae problem...

I tried dosing the 1 per 10 ratio in my 93 and it did nothing to eradicate what I thought was a dino problem (ended up being a combo diatom / algae problem casued by excess silicates). I did not see any visual adverse effects to any of my corals, including probably a half-dozen SPS types. The only visual 'symptom" I noted was that all of my anenomes tentacles retracted greatly, and their disks swelled greatly, for about 10 minutes after the H2O2 was added to the system.
 
I did note that water clarity seemed to be improved while dosing.
 
Now dosing at 1 per 10 is alot different than a full-strength (or even siluted) dip... I did not try that.
 
 
 
 
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What strength hydrogen peroxide are you talking about?  I assume the over the counter drug store type, then 1 part peroxide to 10 parts RO water? Or are you using mixed salt water for the dilution dip?
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It's 1 ml of peroxide per 10 gallons of water volume
 
My 93 system has approx 100 gal of water volume, so I dosed 10 ml of peroxide
 
Regular OTC peroxide that you can buy in any drug store / WalMart, etc
 
As far as for the dip - not sure, I never used it as a dip
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Originally posted by BobC63 BobC63 wrote:

One of the problems (IME) is that a dino problem looks alot like a cyano problem and either of those can be combined with an algae problem...


I tried dosing the 1 per 10 ratio in my 93 and it did nothing to eradicate what I thought was a dino problem (ended up being a combo diatom / algae problem casued by excess silicates). I did not see any visual adverse effects to any of my corals, including probably a half-dozen SPS types. The only visual 'symptom" I noted was that all of my anenomes tentacles retracted greatly, and their disks swelled greatly, for about 10 minutes after the H2O2 was added to the system.

 

I did note that water clarity seemed to be improved while dosing.

 

Now dosing at 1 per 10 is alot different than a full-strength (or even siluted) dip... I did not try that.

 

 

 

 


I'm happy to see that you have tried this too. It's fun to squirt cyano in my sump when I dose and see it fizzle away into the water column for my skimmer to suck up. How long ago did you dose and for how long? Did any come back when you stopped doseing?
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I don't dose Hydrogen Peroxide to the tank as it oxidizes very fast in the aquarium becoming ineffective. I have had great success using it as a dip for Zoanthids and other soft corals like mushrooms and other polyps.

Used straight over the counter strength (3%)kills all algae. Zoanthids can be dipped for 1 to 5 minutes and returned to the tank. They will look all bubbly and retracted for about an hour then will open right back up. More sensitive corals like Acros, Montipora and other SPS should not be dipped in Hydrogen Peroxide but if you can remove their rock and use a pipette (eye dropper) and treat the plug or rock, let it sit in the open air for 3 to 5 minutes then replace in the tank. The next day the algae will be gone and you shouldn't see any ill affects on the corals.

I've treated rocks with Digi, Acros, Chalice, Zoanthids, Leathers, Candy Canes and others with no ill affects as long as you treat the rock and not the SPS. I always use straight 3% over the counter Hydrogen Peroxide. Once you place the piece back in the tank you will see bubbles rise off the rock for a few minutes while the HP oxidizes. When the bubbles stop the HP is virtually gone in the tank.
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I used it to help rid my tank of hair algae, worked wonders! I dipped about 80% of my rocks in hydrogen peroxide mixed with tank water and it killed all hair algae, never to return. You do have to be careful with sps though as others have mentioned.
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I dip new corals that are infested with algae on the plugs...I ususally do about 20-30% peroxide and rest salt water for 2-3 minutes....never lost an SPS, zoa, lps, etc...works great for me, within a day or two all the algae is usually gone.  When using it on zoanthids, you'll see microbubbles form on the coral, but no worries, all my corals always recover within the day.
The reason for the dip is that the algae on the plugs severely hinder growth and sps encrusting, performing this dip has drastically improved encrusting speed on frag plugs, thus improved growth.
 
No experience dosing a whole tank though... 


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I would like to try this on my tank which has a pretty bad algae outbreak. so i just add 1ml per 10g of water? and how do you use it as a dip?
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what if you are doseing vodka? will it kill the bacteria grown by the vodka?
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Originally posted by herrera herrera wrote:



I would like to try this on my tank which has a pretty bad algae outbreak. so i just add 1ml per 10g of water? and how do you use it as a dip?


That's right. I have found it works best to take out as much algae as possible and then dose right after and it seems to stop the free floating algae from sticking to new places.

As a dip you can put your plugs in a bowl with tank water and slowly add HP until you see the algae start to fizz.
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Through vodka dosing, i have found out that it rids algae problems but then can cloud your water with a bacterial bloom later... Sounds like peroxide is the best way to go.
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