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Posted: October 03 2007 at 4:05pm |
I couldnt resist the beautiful elegance coral at Urban Aquatics this weekend, but I have been struggling with it since I've brought it home. I've been posting on reefcentral trying to get some help from the expert guy there. If anyone else has some input I would appreciate it.
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Posted: October 03 2007 at 4:57pm |
How have you been struggling? I know Dion has been successfull with these.
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Posted: October 03 2007 at 5:58pm |
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Take a look at the reefcentral thread. It has pics of how I cannot get the elegance to open up.
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Posted: October 03 2007 at 9:42pm |
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Lower light, Lower flow, light skimming. Elegances do much better with a "dirty" tank. From my experience.
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 11:33am |
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What do you mean by "dirty" tank? Do you mean high nutrients, such as feeding often?
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 11:47am |
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Cody, you can also give Todd at Urban Aquatics a call. He helped us quite a bit with our elegance.
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Yes Mikey...I still have fins!!!
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 12:28pm |
It has been argued that our tanks are cleaner than what an elegance coral likes. We skim out too much. Hence they seem to like a dirtier tank.
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 3:11pm |
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It has been argued that our tanks are cleaner than what an elegance coral likes. We skim out too much. Hence they seem to like a dirtier tank.
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This is a very tough argument for both sides seeing as there is no scientfic proof. I've seen many corals that are said to prefer a "dirty tank", sun polyps for example, but really just prefer to be target fed with high water quality. IMO, it becomes better to have a more efficient filitration system and add the nutrients in and skim the extras so as to prevent the break down of wastes. Then again maybe it is the "wastes" that certain corals desire. I don't think I would do less filitration on my tanks until I had scientific proof. Anyone else have ideas on this or if I'm wrong?
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 3:17pm |
I think you are right. I wouldn't want a dirtier tank just to please one coral.
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 3:35pm |
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I kept my elegance in my well filtered tank with great success. I did target feed with silversides on a regular basis(every 3 days or so).
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 4:11pm |
I had a 65 with tons of coral. (non sps) I skimmed VERY lightly and with low light. 440w. and my elegance and Gorgonian did remarkably well. Moved all of them into my 125 that had high light 965w and high flow- in comparison- ans high skimmer. (G1 baby vs G3) and the Gorgonian did OK but the elegance floundered. I had the elegance in that 65 for almost 2 years. Question I would ask is this. What do you consider dirty? Many on this board run with out any skimmers at all and have awesome tanks. Others have very elaborate filtration systems and have awesome tanks. (however they seam to add much more supplements than the more "dirty " tanks)
I personally have quit being so anal about having the clearest most drinkable water in my tanks. I do skim a lot on both systems but I don't change my filter socks every week. Crud sometimes they over run for a couple of weeks. I do a water change once a month or so and my tanks are doing better than when it was clean socks every couple of days and water changes every week to 2 weeks.
Keep in mind all of the floating feed that is in constant contact with our corals in the wild. I don't care to have my water with that much floaties but some is definitely good.
I did here some conversations not long ago that suggested that we are over skimming and over cleaning the water in our tanks. There are certain "coral experts" that are looking at this.
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 4:48pm |
Well now that I think about it, most of my info I would rather have from experienced hobbiests. The whole elegance coral theory is not one of my favorites. Take a look at this pic and see if you have any ideas. Tank temp is at 76F.
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 4:51pm |
frednwilma1999 wrote:
Cody, you can also give Todd at Urban Aquatics a call. He helped us quite a bit with our elegance. |
If you can or else I'll try and catch him at the meeting, tell him to take a look at this thread and the reefcentral link. I think you can get a much better understanding from the pics and tank info.
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 4:57pm |
Dion,
What is a Gregorian?
Oh, and "defiantly" good? 
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 5:23pm |
Geezzzzz, I work so hard at keeping the "spelling police " off of my back.
Fixed it just for you Mike.  |
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 5:56pm |
Thanks Dion but they were "spelled" correctly!
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 5:58pm |
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Not that I know anything (my disclaimer) but I don't run a skimmer, just a good ol'HOB filter. My tank is only a 29, it is overstocked, I'll be honest, and I only do water changes about once a month these days.... Now I know a lot of you probably think I'm crazy, but since I've cut back on water changes my corals have started doing way better, and my fish seem more active (although they're still bumping into each other)... So from my experience, all one year of it, I'm not convinced that weekly water changes are that beneficial... I do plan on using a skimmer on my next tank, but I don't think I'm going to skim real heavy. I think all the random floaty crap in the tank is good for corals... Just my two, uneducated, cents...
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Posted: October 04 2007 at 11:55pm |
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Grasshopper, You learn wisely. I agree with what your saying Tim. My 125 always looked wrong after the weekly water changes.
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 12:10am |
Tim,
I think that was at least a nickle's worth.
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 12:52am |
Before you bought it did you see it with fully expanded tentacles? Like this?
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