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Posted: September 20 2005 at 12:58pm |
I have recently had a huge majano outbreak.
I had these hitchhikers on a green star polyp rock for about 6 months
and they never spread. I recently upgraded my 55 gallon to a 150 gallon
and these guys have spread like wildfire. I tried injecting a few of
them with "stop aptasia" and they closed for about a week but then came
right back. They have since destroyed my star polyps and are overtaking
my tank. Any suggestions on what can be done to combate these?? I have
read about injecting with hot water, training a butterfly in a seperate
tank to eat them, etc. Any success stories?
A word to the wise:
kill these guys before they spread
TIA,
Jeff
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 1:00pm |
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LOL read my other thread... on the ID ones.. i jsut had the same problem... killed them all last night by injecting calcium straight into them and then digging the crap out of em till they just fell off the rock hehe
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 1:01pm |
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btw i forgot they make some stuff its called "______ juice" i forget what the first word of the name is... it gets rid of aptasia and majano and will not harm your coral or fish...
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 1:18pm |
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Interesting Approach! Although I have read that physically demoloshing
them will just propegate them in the tank. And I have far too many now,
I would have to get scuba gear ;)
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/cav1i3/aiptasia_impressions/ aiptaisia_impressions.htm
Please provide an update in a few weeks, and let me know how it works out.
I am opposed to adding any extra chemicals (joe's juice, etc). I never
trust anything that says it is reef safe (I had a bad experience with
greenex, NOT REEF SAFE).
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 1:40pm |
i know squirting calcium in them kills them... i used it on some aptasia two weeks ago and its all gone.. :)
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 1:41pm |
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Are you talking about 'Joe's Juice?'
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 1:52pm |
I have had excellent success killing aiptasia with a thin Calcium Hydroxide(kalkwasser)+water paste. The syringe and plastic tip that comes with many Salifert test kits work great for getting the paste into the aiptasia. I have yet to see an aiptasia survive this attack. It only takes ~.2cc of paste to kill several of the aiptasia. Much less costly than other methods. Just don't blast your prize corals with the highly basic solution.
P.S. It has worked great for me...but...use at your own risk...
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 4:45pm |
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Be careful with Joes Juice (thickened kalkwasser) and aiptasia. I'm still
trying to rid my system of aiptasia after their spores went everywhere
after a wild hair I got!
I was able to eradicate my manano issue with thickened kalkwasser. I
mixed it very thick and "fed" it to them!
I only had a few, though. But, they didn't spore so maybe....
You can maybe manually remove the manajos by putting a rock or shell
on them. When they moive on top, you can take out the rock and soak it
in bleach!
Be sure to keep a peppermint shrimp when you can. They will eat the
baby aiptasias so you can manually remove the big ones.
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Posted: September 20 2005 at 5:25pm |
Thanks Suzy,
I believe that I have somewhere around 200-300 of these little guys so
I do not think I will have much success injecting them or waiting for
them to individually move to a rock. I will try the thickened kalk
wasser on a few. If it works well I may end up tearing my live rock
apart :(
If anyone wants a few, let me know!!! 
I am interested in any experiences with natural preditors. (I have read
that certain butterflies will take care of them, but I do not want my
corals to be attacked)
I do have 3-4 pepperment shimp (They do great with the aiptasia, but
don't seem to take care for the majano, probably because of the
size/qty).
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Posted: September 26 2005 at 6:21pm |
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Update:
I have searched about 8 local grocery stores
and have been unable to find calcium hydroxide (pickling lime). I
was able to find calcium chloride (It is labeled "pickle
crisp"). I read that calcium chloride is used to raise the
Calcium levels. Is this true? I injected 3-4 majano with a very small
amount and 3 days later they were dead. So this works very well. My
question: Is this something I should be adding? Even in very small
doses? I tried boiling water and I think it is cooling to quick because
it is not as effective as the calcium chloride was. I have not noticed
my calcium levels change (420ppm).
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Posted: September 26 2005 at 6:31pm |
I have what you want! I'll give you some if you come by!
1290 west athleen drive (7240 so) 565-8939
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Posted: September 26 2005 at 11:42pm |
Sorry, I didn't see this post until just now.
The Kleins Butterfly loves those anemones and aiptasia. It doesn't bother much else for a while. It's not hard to remove the Kleins later with a trap. The club has the trap but you will have to visit MSM for the Kleins. 
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 10:58am |
I have been fighting my majano issue for several months using "Stop
Aiptasia" by Chem-Marin. The stuff will kill some, but others
will survive just to propogate again.  .
I would love to try the Calcium Chloride solution. Where
did you buy the "pickle crisp"? Also, when you say "inject" do
you mean you shove the tip of the syringe into the aiptasia or do you
feed it to them?
Thanks,
John
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 11:15am |
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I have found the pickle chrisp at harmons, maceys, and reams. It is by the bottling supplies.
I am not sure if this will have negitive effects on the rest of the tank so use it at your own risk.
It definately works better then "stop aptasia" and boiling water. I
just use the syringe that came with the stop aptasia and inject the
chemical into the mouth (center portion). I just mix a very small
amount with some water (the reaction of adding it to water is
intense heat so use an oppropriate container).
Hopefully someone who has experience with calcium chloride will let us know if this is something that we can safely add.
Bugzme,
Thanks for the offer. I won't be able to swing by until the weekend,
hope that is ok (Full Time Work and Full Time School). Can you let us
know where we can pick up the calcium hydroxide?
Jeff
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 11:24am |
I found it at harmons. You may just need to try a different one. The one in kearns on 6200 South 4800 West had some last time I was in there.
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 11:56am |
Hopefully someone who has experience with calcium chloride will let us know if this is something that we can safely add.
Almost everyone who's kept a reef tank has added calcium chloride to their tank. It's the "form" of calcium in almost every calcium additive on the market. The only effect on the tank will be an undetectable increase in calcium  .
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 7:08pm |
Usually the product sold for pickling pickles is Calcium Hydroxide. I wonder if either one will work for that.
Calcium Hydroxide, also called Kalkwasser, Lime, and Pickling Lime is also used in the same way for killing aiptasia.
I understand that it can be found in large bags at Home Depot, though I get mine at the Chem Shop in Centerville because when I bought 12 lbs. it came in a nice plastic storage pail. But its cheaper at the grocery store.
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 7:18pm |
Mark, what is it called at home depot and where do I look for it?
Jeff--- My address is in the above post!
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 9:12pm |
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Posted: September 28 2005 at 7:36am |
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The lime they use for cement? Cool!
Jon, is Turbo Calcium calcium cloride?
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