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    Posted: October 20 2010 at 12:19pm
I'm looking for the most power efficient and quietest pump to run as a return pump from my sump to my tank.  Needs to flow at least 400 gph at 4' of head, can be external or submersible.  Looking for highest gph/watts, and noise rating.

What would be some good options?
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RIO 17HF Since i had it it quieter than the skimmer skimming or light fans running
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Dead quiet: Poseidon PS4 (also known as Velocity T4). I can't hear the pump run. Decently efficient, and adds heat, but definitely the most silent pump I've ever run.

Good alternative: Eheim submersible. Get a 1260 or so. Very quiet and very reliable, but not very efficient.

Good compromise with okay efficiency and great reliability: Mag 9.5.
Good pump with utter reliability, low heat, and okay efficiency: Iwaki 30. Both of these add noise.

Your requirements would make a direct-drive pump be a bit too much (such as a Sequence Snapper). They are really efficient & quiet, but you end up replacing seals after a year to a few years.



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I have a Rio 12hf. It was like $50 and has been working just fine. I wouldn't mind swapping for a mag or an external pump but its just fine. Handles around 700gph at 1ft
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Originally posted by Jeffs_little_ocean Jeffs_little_ocean wrote:

I use this one:
 
 
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I totally agree with this. I used a 2500 Rio for 7 years on a freshwater tank with no problems or noise.....
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I have used Rio pumps, but have had problems with them.



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I would not use the Rio Pumps.  I used to use Rios all the time, but EVERY Rio pump I have has either stopped working, the housing cracked, or the impeller doesn't spin up everytime it is turned on.  They are usually a good price and work fine for a while, but I would look at a higher quality pump.
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I haven't every had any trouble with my 32HF pumps, both have been running for about a year now with no issues. If you're going for an external pump Iwaki pumps are awesome. That's what I use for all my high pressure/high flow applications.
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Originally posted by Jake Pehrson Jake Pehrson wrote:

I would not use the Rio Pumps.  I used to use Rios all the time, but EVERY Rio pump I have has either stopped working, the housing cracked, or the impeller doesn't spin up everytime it is turned on.  They are usually a good price and work fine for a while, but I would look at a higher quality pump.


I have had the same problems after a while as well. Mag pumps have been decently reliable. Iwakis, Poseidons, and Eheims have been very reliable.

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If you want super quite go with a Poseidon like Corey said they are DEAD silent. You have to feel them to even tell if they are on.
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the poseidon looks awesome (I had once upon a time a velocity t4), but I'm not relying on this pump for my main water movement, and I'm not sure I want to spend that much on a pump for this tank (56 gal column) just to push water back up from the sump.  The tunze got my attention, because it has built in adjustment for flow, but the price is still at least 2 times a rio or via aqua--though totally worth it in quality I'm betting.
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low cost, low noise reliable pump I used for years on my small tank and still use for waterchanges is an Ocean Runner 2500,  it pumps 2500 L/h or 650 Gallons/hour. Great pump never had any problems with and only 28 watts to run, much better on the power bill than the Mags, which I have also run and like but are much louder and less energy efficent.

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Is the Ocean Runner 2500 still available? Or a replacement? 

Marine Depot and Drs Foster & Smith have taken the line down and BRS has been out-of-stock almost all year.

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You cannot beat the poseiden pumps, I am using two on my system, you have to touch them to verify that they are running. You can pick them up used for around $70. I bought my T-4 from a member a couple years ago for $75.
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If I can find one at that price I'll buy it--but will probably end up with the tunze return pump.
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I use a rio HF as well and really like it. I hate mag pumps they are always way noisy.
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+1 on the Poseidon (Velocity) pumps!  2 reasons:  1) I prefer external in-line pumps because they free up space inside the sump, and are generally easier to access for servicing.  2) My T4 is wicked silent!  Like others have said, it does add a little heat to the system, but for a decent sized tank with good water volume it shouldn't be a problem.  I run mine on a 55G with no fans or anything to cool it.
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