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    Posted: March 16 2010 at 1:07pm
Are there any water testing kits that excel above the rest?

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Elos, La Motte and Salifert.
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Are you looking for test kits for a reef tank? Salifert are good kits and people generally like them. I personally use API for my personal tank, I think they are close enough since most of the parameters we deal with are a "range". They are much cheaper. If you have the money get Salifert. You need to test calcium, alkalinity, ammonia, and nitrates. You also need salinity and temp. If you get the API kit get the "reef master kit" and not the "saltwater master kit".
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I'm doing a FOWLR to start with. I figure I'll learn how to keep my tank stable and healthy for hearty fish before I even think about a reef.
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Corals are ten times easier than fish in my opinion. I kill fish every time I put them in my tank. Give me a coral and I can't get the dang thing to die. Softies like leathers, zoanthids, mushrooms are all extremely easy to keep.

Also corals filter the water and fish pollute it.
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Ryan is right.  The only hard thing about keeping corals is paying for the correct lighting.  Once you have that many corals are very easy to keep, much easier than fish.
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Back to the topic at hand. I guess the main thing is I'm starting with a bunch of base rock and sand. So my tank is going to have to cycle. So my current water testing needs are based on monitoring a cycling tank.
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Nitrates and Ammonia. The API test that Curtis talked about is perfect for you.
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I don't mean to point out your mistakes, but you may be starting off on the wrong foot. Already you are informed that coral are easier than fish, so setting up a coral tank is the way you should go.

Second, you have the mistaken idea that the tank needs to take weeks or months to cycle. That's simply not the case. Read my thread again that discusses the biology of reef tanks and how to set one up in a week with both coral and fish: http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244
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Lol If I buy a fish it is for sushi
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It may not take weeks/months? with experienced reefers, but, I would be careful about encouraging anyone to stock a tank with fish and corals in the first week. I have read/heard many more horror stories about going too fast... I take that back. I have never heard a horror story about taking your time and doing your research. Mistakes can be very expensive, and take all the fun out of the hobby.
Sorry, this was about test kits. Alk, nitrates to start, ca and mag after you add corals. I like salifert for everything but nitrates.


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Anyone who clearly reads and follows the procedures that I outline in that thread can do it. It's science, but not rocket science. It does take as much live stuff as you can start with. I'm not saying not to test, though I have not tested N compounds for many many years, what I am saying is that more important than testing is to understand how to use the biology to your advantage in setting up a tank that does not go through a destructive "cycle".

The LFS in general do not know this and do not want to be seen as the culprit when the customer comes back complaining.
 
I on the other hand have been doing this intensely for 17 years, have worked at an LFS and have setup and seen ~1000 reef tanks. I am available almost anytime to help a new hobbyist start up their tank and have a good successful experience doing it. Just call me.
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Yeah what Mark say's!! Then test everything
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