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    Posted: March 14 2010 at 8:08pm
Hello, I am recently going to get into the world of salt water aquarium keeping.  I will be getting a 120 gallon tank soon and would like to build a sump and refugium for it.

I am thinking of getting a 40 gallon breeder tank to use.  Any one know any good guides I can use on what materials I should use, what type of glue, sizes, etc.  I also would like to know how to get a refugium seeded with life.

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I would suggest checking out some of the setups people have.  That way you can see their systems and understand what components are necessary and get ideas for your own design. WMAS folks are often a good source for buying supplies like macroalgae. By the way, what are you planning on keeping in your tank?  Your livestock will play a role in dictating your filtration needs.
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I plan to eventually build up to a reef system.  Since this is my first attempt at salt water, I'm going to take is slowly and add on to the reef slowly.  Or so I plan as of now, who knows how long I'll be that patient :)
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It depends on what you plan on putting in it.  Skimmer, heater, GAC reactor, Phosban reactor, etc, refugium,.... you plan what you want and I'm sure we can give you suggestions on how to divide up your sump.  Or one big refugium. 
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Hi Nathan,
 
What part of Idaho are you from? I know a couple good reefers in Idaho Falls area. Anyway if you can get by to see someones established reef and what they are doing it could help.
 
As for building a sump if you're using a glass tank for the sump then you are going to be attaching the panels with aquarium grade silicone rubber. You can get an acceptable product from Home Depot or Lowe's. The panels can be either glass or acrylic. If you are using acrylic you want to cut the panels a little shorter than the width of the tank, (1/8 to 3/16"), to allow the acrylic to expand without pushing out the glass panels. It is also much more critical to completely clean the acrylic from any oils or contaminants as silicone doesn't stick well to acrylic that isn't completely clean.
 
If you are using an acrylic sump then you will be using Weldon acrylic solvent to attach the panels.
 
As for compartments you most sumps have at least 3 chambers. The first chamber usually houses the Protein skimmer and chemical filtration like carbon or phosban, the second is usually for additional biological filtration such as a DSB, Live Rock rubble and macro algae. If you're going to grow macro you will need a light source which is usually run opposite the tank lights. The last compartment is for the return pump if you are using an internal pump or to feed an external pump through a bulkhead fitting.
 
There are many options available to you as far as sump design which is why I suggest you visit some existing reef tanks and see what they are doing. Generally the largest sump you can fit into the available space is preferred because it gives you the most options down the road and increases the total water volume.
 
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Welcome Nathan,
 
You have come to the best source for honest, accurate and helpful information.
 
Look here in the Tips and How to's section for a link to a simple sump/refugium. This entire thread will give you a lot of helpful information on setting up a reef aquarium, even in Idaho, and even if you can't get any Utah Rock and Sand. That rock is also found in Idaho! http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244
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A picture is worth a thousand words.

 
The sump flows from left to right. The return pump is hidden on the right side.
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