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    Posted: June 13 2006 at 8:01pm
I finally installed my auto top off from my RO/DI unit to my sump.  I used a Kent float with a flood stop solenoid ahead of the float valve.  I placed the sensor for the flood stop device in the sump mounted close to the top.  Its placement allows for the overflow in the tank to drain incase of a power outage and is located so that it cannot get wet by splashing.  Since my overflow will only drain a gallon or so, I was able to adjust so that if the float valve sticks open (which almost always happens sooner or later) the water will rise a  little more than a couple of gallons and shutoff.  Thats not enough to change the salinity drastically and prevents an overflow condition.   That sensor is so sensitive that if a small drip makes contact with it, it will set off the alarm and shut the solenoid.  What a great little gadget and a great backup to the float switch and at 29.00 on ebay, thats cheap insurance!

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This is exactly the same design i decided to go for,  i think its much simpler than some out there but provides at least one level of redundancy for flooding which was a requirement.

I went one step further even and drilled and plumbed overflow lines from the very top edge of my sump down and to a floor drain.  this way if the sump ever gets up that high it will start autodraining.  yes this will lower the salinity over time i figured 1.5 days would lower it to a point where it would start becoming real trouble for tank inhabitants but it will prevent potentially 100+gpd of water ending up on my floor.  a small price to pay if you ask me.

the only downside to this system is something john pointed out, in theory r/o systems produce "better" water on their 10th+ cup than their 1st.  to test it out i  used my tds meter on the 1st cup as well as after letting 2 gallons come out.  both readings were well below safety margins and insignificant between the two.  so maybe in practice its not such a big deal....
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Thats a great point and one of the reasons that I placed the sump in my basement near my drain, however plumbing the overflow into the drain makes it even better.  Thanks!
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I thought I was quite tricky about doing this =)

I ended up buying 4 1/2 inch bulkheads from erik at marine aquatics.  they are threaded so you can then go to home depot and get "rainbird" threaded to barbed connectors, and then put some 20 foot hoses and routed them behind the workbench to the nearest floor drain.  i even "tested" to make sure that they would flow faster than the autotop off and obviously it was no problem at all.  but a nerve racking "test" =p

i only used 2 of the bulkheads for the drain.  the other two i used for plumbing automatic water changes =)  so now i only have to add salt to a 30 gallon container once a week and i get automatic water changes as well!  now THAT is a pleasure...
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