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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:16pm |
So at some point in the next couple of months I would like to move my sump to my basement. While I am doing that I would like to add a bigger fuge, maybe something in the 50g range. My questions are: what size return pump to get. It will be roughly 8 feet of head when I set up the new fuge, I would like either a dsb or plenum, some rock, chaeto and mangroves. Once set up, should I let this cycle on its own, or plumb it straight into the tank. I am thinking of going from tank through the floor to the 50g fuge (ideally drilled) draining into my current 20g sump, returning back up to the tank. My current set up is a standard 36" 65g pre drilled tank with the oceanic sump with three chambers (skimmer-baffles-small fuge-baffles-return pump) and an unknown return pump. I am open to any ideas or setups Thanks PJ
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:19pm |
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forgot to add, should I put anything like snails, stars, crabs or anything else in the fuge
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Posted: November 13 2009 at 7:25am |
For I return pump that can handle the head I would looke into the Mag pumps, a mag 9.5 would give you right around 600gph at 8 feet of head, and shutoff is at 14 feet.
Personally I like having a deep sand bed, about 6" in the fuge, with some live rock rubble, I always end up adding a few big turbos to my fuge to keep the hair alge in check. I don't know why but my fuge always grows cheato good and I can harvest every couple weeks, but I am still plagued by red hair alge growing on the live rock, and snails take care of that.
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Posted: November 13 2009 at 8:45am |
I have just lately been writing up a thread "Secrets of an easy Refugium." Look for it in the recent threads/posts.
It's okay to have a little nusiance algae in the Refugium. It's going to grow somewhere anyway so letting a little grow in the Refugium keeps it from growing in the display. With regard to what animals to put in the Refugium and when to start running water through it:
- only a few hermits and twice as many snails just to help keep it moderately clean and if you have read and understood what I wrote here http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 you will understand that the best way to start a reef tank, a Refugium is just another tank, is to add some live stuff to the new stuff. - That means continually running the Refugium connected to the entire system from the very first moment the plumbing is finished.
 I'm trying to dump my head of the stuff that I have picked up since getting in this hobby and starting the WMAS
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Posted: November 13 2009 at 12:43pm |
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At the reef fest Adam Cesnales talked about advanced refugia and said you shouldn't put any hermits at all in the refugium because they decimate the zooplankton so fast and eat a lot of the critters you want to grow in there.
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 9:45pm |
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I for one would also say stay away from Hermits in your fuge.
As for a pump, it really depends on the flow rate you want through the sump system, but I would suggest going for a good external pump, the last a lot longer with fewer problems with submersible pumps. I would look at a T-3 myself....
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 10:27pm |
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I agree with using an external pump for a sump in the basement. In addition to the head you also have to consider any bends and the total length of the run. All of this will affect the total flow and a good external pump will handle the flow much better than an internal pump.
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Posted: November 26 2009 at 11:46pm |
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I have an Iwaki 70 that I want to sell or trade should give you more then enough flow pm me if your interested
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