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Posted: April 30 2004 at 9:26am |
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How long is live rock ok out of water??
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Suzy
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 9:38am |
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If it never leaves the water, it's better. The sponge thats part of the
"live" stuff, dies when it comes in contact with air. If it is already out
of the water, try to make sure it stays wet.Then, when you put it in
your tank, try to shake out the bubbles by turning it over and
shaking a few times.
I know it's a hassle to keep it submerged, but the sponge is one of
the things that makes your tank stable and healthy....And it comes in
really cool colors!!!! My favorite is pink!
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 9:39am |
Any time at all out of water is detrimental to the live rock. There are sponges and other things that can and will die off when exposed to air. However (and Mark has a process for this) you can use a bucket and submerge it underwater, put the rock in the bucket, then remove the bucket and Voila! No exposure to air.
However, I have found that to be a major pain in the but in the least(especially for large pieces), so when transferring live rock I will just bring a container with water in it, and transfer the rock into the container and keep it submerged as best I can. Just expect some die off when you do it that way.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 9:40am |
 Wow Suzy quick fingers! You posted that just as I was posting mine.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 9:48am |
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And we both said the same thing! Smart minds think alike????
Look at the timing; Post #1@ 10;26
#2@ 10:38
#3@ 10;39
How's that for immediate feedback?
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 9:50am |
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Someone broght it in to work today, so that wasn't really an option. they just took it out and brought it in... I was thinking to just let it cycle in a bucket for a few days once I get it home.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 10:03am |
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I think more of my concern is stuff like worms, copes etc.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 10:53am |
How much LR?
If it's equal to or less than the amount of LR currenty in your tank, and your tank is in good shape, which I believe it is, do not mess with a bucket. Place it in your tank ASAP.
The life in your tank will do 100 times better at recovering the LR than the dying life left on the rock could ever do on it's own in a bucket.
It's really nice that someone thought of you to give you some LR. It's too bad that many don't recognize that term "LIVE ROCK" It only lives because it's underwater! Conversely, how long would a person live if they were transported underwater!
I can only bow my head in disgust when I see the LFS clerk take LR out of it's tank and let it drain, even shake more water out before wieghing and putting it in a bag. Some of the air remaining in holes that water drained out of can take weeks or months to be replaced with water even when shook real good in all directions underwater in the new tank. In the meantime the life in those holes dies and requires "cycle" time. I would rather pay for a bucket of water than see a good piece of LR go dry!
What the LFS could do is tare some water in a bucket then pull the LR out of the tank in the buket and have us pay the difference plus a set charge for water and bucket! Unfortunately these days the LR at the LFS has already been out of water when they received it and the quality of rock these days is so poor anyway, that improved handling may not make much difference anyway.
Sorry, I'm just ranting. 
Edited by Mark Peterson
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 11:11am |
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Its probably close to the amount of rock that I currently have. I think with as long as its been out of the water I'll still plan on the bucket. I'm doing a water change today so I can use LW to fill it, but since I'm going out of town I'd rather not risk my whole tank.
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Jake Pehrson
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 12:37pm |
I disagree with the whole live rock thing.
Live rock is not transported from the ocean to the pet store in water. Therefore everything that grows on your live rock somehow survived the trip for the ocean to the pet store to your tank WITHOUT being submerged in water.
Transporting your live rock in water is better then in a damp box, but not necessary.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 1:30pm |
Yeah, I get to prove Jake wrong....
Jake, what about Atlantic Rock?
Okay other than that, I agree with Jake. I just thought I would point out the rock (although rare) that you can buy in stores (at least at the Pet Factory) that is shipped in water. Oh yah, and I guess Mark's points are also valid if you are getting live rock from a friend's tank, where you want to keep it wet.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 1:36pm |
Okay,
It is true that you can buy rock that has been shipped in water, but you will pay a premium.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 2:19pm |
I called Acerob because he has visited with me and my 180. He's going on vacation this weekend so was really nervous about adding it to his tank. When he dropped it off, I can see why. The person that brought it to him didn't even bother to put it in a sealed bag. It was in a loosly tied drawstring clothing store type of bag with absolutely no water!  So I closed the bag tight and took it to my 180 to recover for a week or two. Keep your fingers crossed.
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Posted: April 30 2004 at 8:56pm |
I wondered why that Florida rock at the Pet Factory was so dang expensive. I guess if the quality is up that stands to reason. I'm sure UPS loves to ship boxes of rock and water. Small Box=Big Price. 
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Posted: May 12 2004 at 2:14pm |
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Mark, thanks for taking the LR, how is it fareing??
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