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Posted: May 31 2003 at 11:43am |
Is there anyone on the forum that is into breeding fish? I am interested in this. I Know we are giong to have a meeting soon on breeding clowns. I am very interested in this. I have heard that it is much harder getting salt water fish to breed as compared to fresh.
Anyway I am just curious to see if anyone does this.
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Posted: May 31 2003 at 2:48pm |
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Jake has bred clowns. I heard my friend Mike just got his engineer gobies to lay eggs. If you are interested in breeding clownfishes, you should get a book called Clownfishes by Joyce D. Wilkerson. It is very detailed and will tell you everything you need to know. There are very few species of salt water fish that you can breed. I have heard of Mandarin gobies breeding also. Good luck!
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Posted: May 31 2003 at 3:33pm |
sorry, this might be a bit of a thread hijack, but...
Isn't it strange that the damsel fish seem to be the easiest sw fish to breed? I've bred many different species of african cichlids (mouth brooders are very cool!) and I've always felt like they were the damsels of the african rift lakes :). They have very similar dispositions, nutrional needs, coloration and in the case of substrate brooders, similar parenting habits. Any fish that's an "active" parent will aways be fun to breed.
now back to your regularly scheduled program...
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Posted: May 31 2003 at 3:58pm |
unlock Jon, I do not know much about fresh water stuff. I thought that if I could do salt water then fresh would be no prob. But these cichlids have their own set of rules. Like Discus - 90 degrees and a ph of 6!!! Holy smokes!!
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Posted: May 31 2003 at 5:18pm |
Discus are cool (the fry eat the slime off the mothers skin)! It's not that hard to have a pH of 6 when your tank is full of RO water (no buffering) and you're bubbling CO2 into the tank. The hard part is keeping the pH stable. I have a friend who was semi "successful" at it.
With africans, for the most part, just put a male and a couple females together and "it's amore"! The husbandry comes into play after the courtship is over .
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Posted: May 31 2003 at 6:15pm |
Thanks for the tip I will check out the book. I havenet been into cichlids enough to want to breed them. The clowns look like fun though.
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Posted: May 31 2003 at 6:23pm |
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We have Wilkerson's book. Ask Mr librarian, Kirk, to save it for you.
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Posted: June 02 2003 at 7:17am |
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I have a pair of White Striped Maroon clowns that have been actively breeding for the few months. It seems like clockwork, about every 14 days they lay eggs. What a sight when they hatch. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to setup my automatic feeding system and get moving on a system to raise them.
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Posted: June 02 2003 at 1:51pm |
I have read Clownfishes twice. I think that this is my favorite book I have. Lots of fun to read. There is also quite a bit of info in there about anemones. It is a great reference, I suggest buying it, its worth it if you plan on breeding.
I've been hoping to breed pink skunks and ocellaris, but my tanks that they are in are a little too busy. All the other bigger fish make it to intense for the little guys. I suggest getting a little tank and setting it up just for them. One of these days I will have around 20 aquariums that way I can have all the different setups that I want.
I have goldfish in barrells/planters on my balcony that have been breeding for a year or two. As a matter of fact one of the females just laid eggs all over the place the day before yesterday. I've still got some of last years fry living in one of them. As for saltwater......I have yet to see anything like that happen in my tanks, but that also requires two of the same species living together with both sexes, and I think I only have that in my clownfishes.
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Posted: June 02 2003 at 5:19pm |
WhiteReef, What size tank do you have your clowns in? And what happens to the eggs if you dont have the feeding system?
I have heard that you need a large tank to get clowns to breed. I am not sure if thats true or not.
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Posted: June 02 2003 at 6:09pm |
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The Clownfishes, the say that you should use a 10-20 gallon tank to breed clowns in. They also have a diet in there also. You can use rotifers from day 1 but you then have to switch to brine and flake. Brine shouldn't be used by itself according to the book. I have not read the whole thing yet... I am paraphrasing.
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Posted: June 02 2003 at 8:39pm |
Feel free to email me for the article about my experience raising Clownfish. Here is one of my babies. This was taken with one of the very first digital cameras, but it looks better in the gallery for some reason. Images of the eggs and "papa" are in the site gallery too.
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Posted: June 02 2003 at 8:46pm |
Also see the article in one of the Sea Stars Online (blue button to the left) about a WMAS member breeding the Bangaii Cardinal.
That person has moved but Jeff Hite, a current member can tell you how he does it.
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Posted: June 03 2003 at 7:37am |
My tank is a 75 gallon tank setup. I don't believe it had anything to do with the size of the tank. It might have been that I added a night-light next to the tank to simulate a moon light affect. It was just one of those cheep night-lights that you can buy for a house, but it needs to be bright enough to provide light to the tank. Also what you feed them can cause them to start to spawning also from what I have read. Along with that you can increase the photo period of the tank slowly. Another suggestion was to increase the temperature of the tank to around 80 degrees. The book from Wilkerson was a great help with understanding the basics, but I really was able to see 'real world' experiences from reading the reefcentral clownfish board. One of the main things to remember is to have patience during the process as the fish may be immature still or they may not have 'bonded'. This process usually takes about 6 months to just over a year.
From reading and poking around the clownfish larva are to small to eat anything of any size, so I need to have small live food for them. This usually includes rotifers, but some people have had minimal success using other methods. Because of this it is necessary to have some sort of aqua-culture going. That is what I don't have. Then after they are a few week old you can start to feed them newly hatched brine shrimp, and then after awhile you can start to introduce processed foods. But without the inital aqua-culture setup the fry will starve, so that is my dilema...including the time needed to provide the proper feeding cycle.
I'll post my ideas on the automatic feeder in the DIY forum.
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Posted: June 04 2003 at 8:03am |
FYI - the Breeders Registry ( color=#800080http://www.breeders-registry.gen.ca.us/ ) is a hobbyist sponsored group that has been collecting information about breeding and raising marine ornamentals for over five years. It's a great resource Check it out, if you haven't already.
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