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Nah, we'se from the south east in the in the Carolinas. But I travel to Texas alot on business and I was just there two weeks ago. It is a great aquarium and I would highly recommend it. The jelly exibit was amazing! I was pretty surprised at the lack of LFS in the CC area. There was one that I visited though and they had a pretty decent setup, their corals were about $10 less than what we generally get 'round these here parts. But, they wanted $6.99/lb for their LR! Anyways, I visited that store and talked with some of the guys there for awhile, good kids and fairly knowledgeable. I would love to check out the reef that is off the coast there though. It's the northern most reef in the world I believe.

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Originally posted by Carl Carl wrote:

I would love to check out the reef that is off the coast there though. It's the northern most reef in the world I believe.

Most people do not consider it a true reef, but even if it is it is not the northern most, just so you know.  I believe Jeff Hite travels there to collect fish with his brother or uncle or someone like that who has a fishing boat there.

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Well Mr. Adam, what is the northern most reef then? Is it the northern most in the U.S.?
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Originally posted by Carl Carl wrote:

Well Mr. Adam, what is the northern most reef then? Is it the northern most in the U.S.?

I hate to say what the northern most is because I'm not actually sure on that.  The reef systems around Japan reach around 40 latitude (I can't find a degree symbol on my keyboard gosh dang it).  Off the top of my head that is what I would guess.  As for the US, once again debatable but I do consider East Florida up to Jacksonville to be a reef.  I don't consider Georgia and the Carolinas to be reefs.  Side note- the islands in the Sargasso Sea are reefs and they are further north of the Carolinas and just off the coast. 

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Kinda funny that this (northern reef) topic popped up here.  In passing, Adam and I had a similar discussion over some pizza a couple weeks back, only I was under the impression that it was off the coast of Alabama, but I couldn't remember the name/location/ect.  Well, the guy I know (catalyst salesman from Houston) who has dived there just made his monthly visit.  It turns out the place is called The Flower Gardens.  They are about 100 miles off the Texas/Louisiana coast and are according to NOAA, the most northern coral reefs in the USA.  Here's NOAAs website for the area:  http://www.sanctuaries.nos.noaa.gov/oms/omsflower/omsflower. html

Carl, is that the area that you heard about in Corpus Cristi?  The recent history of the Flower Gardens is kinda interesting.  They were only "recently" discovered and were kept a "secret" until Shell Oil Exploration started drilling in the area.  The mud from the drilling operation started to kill the reef.  A concerted effort by gulf coast divers and environmentalist got the dilling stopped and the area protected from future drilling.

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I believe it might have been the area that I was speaking of, but of course I was apparently wrong. I have seen some maps that show the Texas Reef slightly North of the East coast of Florida Reefs. The maps that I have seen did not illustrate a reef around Jacksonville. Remember that as of around 1999, less than 10% of the U.S.'s reefs had been mapped. So, who knows.
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Jon, thanks for posting that link.

I'm not a diver so I wonder,
How does a boat stay in position in the open water when divers go down 60 -100 feet?
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Umm... Mark,.... ever heard of an anchor?
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Or the boat trys to follow the bubbles and drift along with the divers.

Where's adam, or diverdan, when you need him?

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I figured that there might be laws preventing the use of an anchor on a reef! Do they use GPS (Global Positioning System) much for this yet, to stay in position?
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They anchor right into the reef.  In some areas you can see long gouges where the anchor has ripped right through the rock.
However, the new thing to do is that many popular diving places have bouys set up tied to the bottom.  Then boats come and they all tether to the bouys.... thus eliminating the need to anchor.

Here is another story.  It is very common for boats to drop off divers and simply drift.  When the diver returns he swims to wherever the boat is.  It is also common for on small boats that when divers surface they blow a horn and the boat comes to pick them up.  I once surfaced, couldn't see the boat, and couldn't see land.  I told my diver partner "well I guess I'll blow the horn, I hope they come for us".  It took a couple minutes but the boat did come pick us back up.  I was quite relieved to say the least.

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Thanks Adam. That's the kind of info I was hoping to hear, that the reef can be preserved.
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