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New koralia evos 1400 that are controllable are relatively equal in price as the old ones (Got mine at big Als for 39.99....they put the evos on sale roughly once a month), plus they have a much smaller foot print, provide wider flow pattern, easier to clean, and can be controlled with anything from a reefkeeper lite to 5 dollar timers.....go with them for a cheap powerhead choice....I'd be concerned with previous posts from those that suggest otherwise, which have never used them.




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Bur - if your post is in response to mine, I wasn't clear.  I've used both the old and new ones, and yes, they are about the same price.  But to actually control them how Hydor intends them to be controlled, you have to buy the little controller dude...which is expensive and doesn't have as good of reviews as Vortech.  Yes, you can throw them on a timer or something and make them "controllable", but it's not the same.
 
BTW...the newer ones have a more narrow direct flow than the older ones...the older ones were more broad (if you took off the nozzle).  I preferred the older ones and just took the nozzles off. 
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Controller, timer, etc....they will all work the same....new koralias are not capable of speed changes, just on/offs, thus any timer will work.....hydor's controller is a fancy multi-timer with multiple outlets, a reefkeeper works just as well....mine personally cycles on and off every 20 seconds....these pumps are not comparable to vortechs speed differential, as far as being controllable...however, I don't even recall saying they were comparable to vortechs.

Lets recap....old koralias vs. new evos.

1.  Roughly same price
2.  Evos are controllable, on/off cycles only, works with fancy timers or 5 dollar ones
3.  Evos are smaller than old torpedo football koralia pumps
4.  Best "cheap" controllable pump available
5. Old koralia pumps use 2 to 3 times more power, your electric bill will thank you
6. Much easier to clean and no noisy start ups

No hard feelings, but I don't understand why you're pushing the old vs. the new






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Where exactly are you getting this idea that I'm pushing the old vs the new???  All I said was that I *personally* preferred the older ones b/c I liked to remove the nozzles.  I said in my posts that I had the old AND the new Koralias...and wished I had purchased the MP40's a long time ago.  That's it....stating my personal preference as a personal preference is not "pushing" anything last I checked. 
 
I clarified my original post...and then clarified in my last post that all I was trying to say is that if you're looking to turn your pumps on and off, it's not worth buying the specific controller for the Koralias since it is close to the price of MP40s with pretty much no features.  I don't consider that a true controller, but if you do, whatever. 
 
I don't understand why you're pushing this debate (and last I checked, this wasn't a debate...not sure what you're even arguing.)  Chances are, the person asking won't be able to buy the older ones even if he/she wanted (unless they were used.)  So, who cares?!  Almost everyone in this thread thinks he should buy Koralias if on a budget (and he can't buy the old ones b/c they're discontinued) or the MP40's if money grew on trees.
 
I'm not responding to this thread again as we are BOTH not helping the original poster.
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wow, chill bro...you were pushing the old vs. the new in your previous posts, based on untrue information....now as of this afternoon, they have been "edited" for clarity....interesting

I think it is important to inform fellow reefers information that is in fact true.

You just made some simple statements that were untrue...I am trying to help out this guy.

You misled him by saying

1.  New koralias are much more expensive than old
2.  New koralias must use an expensive "hydor" wavemaker in order to be controlled properly

Both of these are misleading and untrue as I have pointed out....I further made mention of the other positives the new evos have, which was THEN responded by you with a new post saying koralias are controllable, but no where near a vortech, which is quite random and does not pertain. 

"Chances are, the person asking won't be able to buy the older ones even if he/she wanted (unless they were used.)  So, who cares?!"  - Reef's Up

Obviously you do....you were the one that recommended to get the old ones over the new ones....strange bro...this is just getting weird.

Oh and yes, you actually can buy the old ones brand new on amazon and in major fish retail stores everywhere...it is important to provide information to others based on facts rather than assumptions.

It is uncalled for to get so upset.  If you provided information that is technically incorrect, just accept it and move forward.

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