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Marcoss 
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 Posted: October 03 2015 at 10:40am |
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It likely cycled, assuming you bought it, took it down, and reassembled it. That could explain it. Once you start disturbing the old stuff, its kind of like you are starting again. Assuming to leave stuff, add more stuff, etc.
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Posted: October 03 2015 at 2:14pm |
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Hi Everyone !!
So my tang came out today during feeding time and actually ate today !! He ate so much , I'm so happy ! He's been eating off the rocks ever since
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Posted: October 03 2015 at 8:13pm |
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That is great news to hear. Many of us use photo bucket to post pics just as an fyi. I'm not really good like some that can look at a pic and tell you everything right and wrong, I just want to see this tank. Good luck and welcome to the joys of reef keeping.
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24 gal softie tank
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Posted: October 04 2015 at 8:28am |
Good news. Maybe it's out of the woods and all this discussion is moot?
I agree with Marcoss that the tank was cycling and is still settling in from the move just 2 months ago. Moving a tank is almost like setting up a new tank. Two months is a very short time for a new/moved tank to reach a point of stability and health.
To upload a pic, click on the tree icon above and select the pic from your computer. Mobile devices have more difficulty with pics than a regular computer.
Watch the Yellow Tang to make sure it is it gaining weight? Is it getting any fatter? Tangs are like cattle. To be healthy, they do best when grazing all day on algae. Here is a pic showing the girth of a fat healthy Tang in the shallows off Kona, Hawaii.
If a Tang stays skinny, especially on the belly, it may be that it was exposed to Cyanide. Collectors (not in Hawaii) use Cyanide to stun the fish making them very easy to catch. These fish always die in our care within a few weeks because, though they eat normally, they cannot digest food properly.
More questions if you care to answer them:
 1- During the move, was the old sand bed removed, rinsed and replaced? Was any new sand added?2- May we please know the actual Alk, Ca, Mg and Nitrate numbers? The numbers are important not only to be "in range" but as to how each component level interacts with the other components. 3- Regarding the hot water, is the heater set above 75? If so, turn it down to 74-75. Many of us only use a heater in the winter. A reef can do just fine at room temperature from Spring through Fall. 4- Is a fan blowing on the water, rather than at the lights or just out the door? Is the hood open on top? Having a fan blowing at the water employs evaporative cooling, which can cool a tank very efficiently. The angle of the fan across the water varies the amount of cooling.5- How often is Garlic Extreme used and how is it administered? Was this same GE being used by the Dentist too? Are there signs of the Ich parasite? If not, the garlic treatment is unnecessary and may in fact have become toxic if it has been used continuously. (There is a better garlic product than GE and it's less costly too.  )6- What kind of live algae is being provided, how much and how often?  7 - how about growing a stand of Caulerpa in the main tank? Tangs and Rabbitfish do much much better when they can graze on live algae.8- Is Caulerpa or Chaetomorpha growing in the Refugium on an RDP (Reverse Daylight Photosynthesis) schedule? How fast does it grow? What light is over the Refugium? Nighttime pH can have a bad effect of fish health, especially Tangs. Read the story here, RDP Filtration article in the WMAS Sea Star Newsletter and take note of my statement, "Tangs also would not live more than a few days." 
I know that's a lot of questions, but the answers and further discussion will hopefully help you see what can be done to improve your little piece of the ocean and make your reefkeeping experience more enjoyable in the long term.
Aloha, Mark 
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 1:20am |
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You say you kept everything you moved, did you rinse the sand before adding it back to the tank?
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 2:23pm |
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Do u have to rinse the sand ? We did not because we wanted the mandarin to live. We were told he has to have mature sand and not to rinse it
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 2:49pm |
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As long as the sand remained in the tank and undisturbed (not stirred up pulling stuff out and not stirred by sloshing water during the move) then you might not need to rinse it. The most important thing for the mandarin is pods to eat which live more on rock than in the sand. I always recommend rinsing old sand (even more so with 5 year old sand) to remove built up waste from the sand bed. If it's not rinsed and the sand bed is disturbed during the move it releases lots of waste into the water and will cause a cycle and instability in the tank.
Some more details about how the move was done and what things were done might help narrow the issue even further.
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 2:50pm |
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He does have to have mature sand or else he will pass away. Unless he is eating regular fish food. Some of them are tank raised and trained to eat fish food, others will pass away from running out of a food source- which is what is alive in mature tank. A mandarin is one of those fish you want to really wait to add to a tank. I would strongly suggest you read about fish before you buy them. My favorite fish, the achilles, is too intermediate for me (and he gets massive) and my tanks are coming up on a year. Size-wise, you are probably fine with 99% of the fish.
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 3:25pm |
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We have done a lot of research on each fish we purchased. ( except the blue Chromis ) they were a Spurs of the moment buy because the store said they were not aggressive. We have had a tank tank for years before buying this current one. My husband also worked at A reef aquarium for a while. This tank has a different sand then what we are used to so we aren't sure about it. All our fish are small compared to our tank size and we are waiting to add more. They are all very happy and even the tang is doing great now . The other guy had an issue with keeping tangs alive as well. We did some research and tried different things to try and keep our clown tang alive. We knew he was a difficult tang to keep but just got him because someone didn't want him anymore. We then got a yellow who died after a week. We did some things to try and fix this issue then bought our current tang. He did great for a week then stopped eating for a couple days. Now he is eating again and doing great !!!
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 3:31pm |
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Hey, I was not trying to be offensive in my post. I should have worded it better. My apologies. I am sure you are researching your animals and clearly care. I was just trying to say that maybe he could run out of food depending on how the sand was treated. So glad to hear your tang is doing better!
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 3:54pm |
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I didn't take it offensively !!
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 3:57pm |
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So glad! I read over my post again and to me it reads kind "know-it-all-ish" when in reality I know a few drops over knowledge in this massive ocean.
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Posted: October 05 2015 at 5:44pm |
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I was told the same thing on my first tank i bought used and told not to rinse the sand needless to say i had issues for months and the tank crashed.
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