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Topic: Clown fish fry Posted: July 01 2017 at 10:31am |
Hello All!!
My 2 percula clowns laid eggs , after they hatched ( 8 days ago) I have been feeding them Hikari First Bites . This has been working so far because it is now Day 8 for my hatchlings. My rotifier tank crashed so this was a last ditch effort. How long do you think they will survive on this food?
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Posted: July 01 2017 at 10:38am |
Also.. I am going to start mixing in Brine shrimp . I can't find anything regarding raising these babies without rotifiers so I am kind of lost
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Posted: July 01 2017 at 6:37pm |
It's great that you raised them to this point. Metamorphosis is almost upon those larvae. That's when they change into real clownfish fry. It takes a lot of energy to go through that change. Don't know how well they will fare on that processed food. Keep your fingers crossed, but DO NOT feed brine shrimp nauplii (newly hatched brine shrimp) until after metamorphosis. Clownfish Larvae cannot handle Brine Shrimp nauplii.
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P.S. have you seen the threads about my clownfish breeding?
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Posted: July 01 2017 at 7:25pm |
Thank you for the reply ! And no I haven't seen your post regarding clown fish
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Posted: July 02 2017 at 10:06am |
It might be hard to find in a search of my 21,135 posts to date , so I found the thread for you.
I'm no professional breeder like our own Shaun Sabey, but this little guy raised in 1999, may be the first clownfish raised by a hobbyist in Utah...me.
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Posted: July 03 2017 at 2:10am |
They can be raised on dry foods but you get a poor survival rate. Your on about day 10 and I would not introduce live at this point, continue with dry. Brine shrimp are not needed or recommend for raising clown fish. I like and recommend a product from Reef Nutrition called TDO.
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Posted: July 03 2017 at 5:01pm |
Thank you! As of now I still have 12 hatchlings , they are happy and thriving( I hope)
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Posted: July 03 2017 at 7:03pm |
Nice!
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Posted: July 05 2017 at 7:01am |
Thanks for the info Shaun. Being naturally interested in this kind of thing, I looked it up. If I am right, TGO appears to be made by a company in Japan. It is a pelleted/powdered food infused with an important ingredient derived from a freshwater alga. At least three specialized fish food companies in the U.S. distribute it. We (the WMAS) had a guest speaker presentation from Reed Mariculture several years ago. Two other distributers are Reef Nutrition and APBreed. The Reef Nutrition home page has a very cool video of clownfish larvae and fry eating TDO
I assume the best survival rate comes from feeding live Rotifers complimented by occasional feeding of TDO or other dry prepared food like Hikari First Bites, right? Aloha, Mark
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Posted: July 05 2017 at 11:48am |
Hello all ! It is now day 12 and I still have 12 hatchlings. 2 don't look too well . Should I continue feeding dry or should I start feeding something else
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 1:11am |
Mark Peterson wrote:
Thanks for the info Shaun. Being naturally interested in this kind of thing, I looked it up. If I am right, TGO appears to be made by a company in Japan. It is a pelleted/powdered food infused with an important ingredient derived from a freshwater alga. At least three specialized fish food companies in the U.S. distribute it. We (the WMAS) had a guest speaker presentation from Reed Mariculture several years ago. Two other distributers are Reef Nutrition and APBreed. The Reef Nutrition home page has a [URL=http://www.reefnutrition.com" rel="nofollow]very cool video of
I assume the best survival rate comes from feeding live Rotifers complimented by occasional feeding of TDO or other dry prepared food like Hikari First Bites, right?  Aloha, Mark  |
apbreed and reef nutrition are made/sold by the same company. Chad Clayton works for Reeds, and also travels the country giving lectures on "bugs" and phytoplankton. I feed Rotifers for around 14-16 days and start TDO "A" around day 8 to 10. Some of the "garage" breeders start TDO as early as day 4. The commercial breeders are shifting to copods as an alternative to Rotifers.
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 1:16am |
Mark you also know that Brine Shrimp Direct also sells a quality product Golden Pearls, which I have also used successfully.
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 1:19am |
Aloha007 wrote:
Hello all ! It is now day 12 and I still have 12 hatchlings. 2 don't look too well . Should I continue feeding dry or should I start fyeeding something else |
by day 12 they should have the first head stripe. Hopefully they go through metamorphosis in the next couple of days.
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 5:08am |
I have some friends that have breed clowns years back.. I will get in touch with them and see if they would be willing to share some knowledge. They live in Grantsville some might know them Linda and George owners of SeaBase.. That is if you all would be interested ?
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 10:23am |
Shaun, Oh yeah, I have used Golden Pearls for more than a decade. Awesome fish food!
Wrogers, the baby Tomato Clownfish shown in the pic above is a grandbaby of a pair that Linda and George were breeding at Bonneville SeaBase! I am so proud to show off that baby, one of only two that survived, which lived for many years in one of Adam Blundell's tanks. Below is the father of that baby looking after his eggs, laid in my 75 gal(tank pics below). This was around 1999, the beginning days of digital photography. If a fishy friend, Chuck, hadn't let me use his camera, I wouldn't be able to share these two pics.
Linda Nelson and George built one the first marine ornamental fish hatcheries in the world, using their water straight from the ground. They had hired some guys with previous experience, having worked at fish farms on the coast. Those employees did the actual work to get the Clownfish to breed and to raise the larvae and fry. Linda then brought in VP's from the hobbyist companies, like Instant Ocean, to try to persuade the big companies to fund their work. Unfortunately the cost of breeding was more than what they could get on the wholesale market. Clownfish brought in from the wild were only $2-3 each back in those days.
Man, those were exciting times for a passionate hobbyist like me.
Aloha, Mark
This 75 gal tank (1996-2002) even had the very first pieces of Utah Rock. Above: left side Blelow: right side
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Posted: July 06 2017 at 9:59pm |
Very nice !!
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Posted: August 16 2017 at 11:14am |
any update on this??
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Posted: August 16 2017 at 1:52pm |
Hi !
Yes , Only 4 clownfish made it completely through. They are now happy and healthy and eating brine
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Posted: August 17 2017 at 9:56am |
Congrats
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Posted: August 17 2017 at 11:54am |
How cool! Someday I'd love to give this a shot.
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