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    Posted: September 21 2003 at 9:37pm
I have the opinion that soft and hard corals do not flourish when in the same closed system together. So far this opinion has just been from what I have seen in other tanks and some hearsay from others. I would like to get some sound info on this. I believe that hard corals can survive with soft corals but not flourish as they could without soft corals. What are some other thoughts about this topic? Do you agree or dissagree and why? Does anyone know of any articles or books that may mention this?

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That makes me wonder now that you mention it. My hard corals do not grow near as fast as some others in the clubs tanks do. My lighting is adequate and my calcium/phyto is as well. Maybe there is something to this?
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I have been searching the internet on this. All I have found so far is a few statements by people that I have never heard of. One guy said that soft corals will grow the fastest w/o a skimmer (I agree) but that you have to skim for hard corals. He said that you have to feed both for optimal growth though. He doesn't go into the why but I can only assume that sps are more touchy to the ammonia and other chemicals when the food breaks down.
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I agree in my limited experience. Question: When you say 'hard' and 'soft', do you mean hard = sps, soft = most others? Which group are LPS in, especially the torch/frog/hammer family? Granted with those sweeper tentacles they might be in their own 'best by themselves' group.
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LPS for the most part do okay anywhere and with anything. They can handle indirect or intense light and different water flow rates. I would keep them with whatever. The corals that mentioned above all belong to Euphyllia genus. When I am talking about hard vs. soft, hard mean sps. Sorry, I should have clarified that. But I am open to discussion about the placement of LPS corals also. By soft, I mean corals without a hard skeleton.
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There is a book called The Captive Reef by Dana Riddle. It's not listed in the Library here on the site but has been in the WMAS Library for some time.

Dana signed a copy for me when he came to speak to the WMAS. I donated it to the club because it is really good about all the different coral, and where they come from with a good description of the different reef zones.

Dana was the first hobbyist book author I know of to look into PAR (photo active response?) and how each coral responds to the different wavelengths.

Since SPS(small polyp stony coral includes all the ...pora's, etc.), LPS(large polyp stony coral includes frogspawn, bubble, elegance, blastimosa, etc.), and soft coral(leather, xenia, mushrooms, woods polps, cladiella, etc.) all come from different areas of the reef, it should not be surprising that they do not seem to fully flourish when placed together in our closed systems.

Finding ways to help all the types of coral (& clams!) do as well as possible together, using skimming, carbon, ample feeding and a combination of lighting schemes seems to be a worthy endeavor.

SallyJo Headlee of GARF seems to do it well.



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Well with my limited knowledge of the subject I cannot add much other than, I have been told carbon will remove toxins from the water column.  Now that does nothing for the corals sitting next to each other except maybe prevents a build up.
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I am attempting to grow both types of corals in my tank. So far my monti's have done great with the soft corals. if nothing else Marcus this will give you another tank to compare things to.
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