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    Posted: December 06 2005 at 9:30am
That is live?

That doesn't pollute your tank 'cause it just swims around 'till something
eats it?

That is really inexpensive?

That you can have as much as you want anytime?

I have phytopaste, golden pearls ( 2 sizes), cyclopeeze, some red kent
stuff....all rotting in my fridge since I found the coolest zoop on the
planet!
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I need some!!!

I'm finally to the point where I believe I have enough phyto to support some harder cultures like rots, etc.

How much is cheap?
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4* bucks a year or so!

It's really not even a culture! And,sooooo not difficult! In fact, it's so easy,
I can't believe more people don't have it!
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OK,

What is it and where did you get it?
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Artemia! I got some from a very nice club member, but I have bought it at
Brine Shrimp direct.


I hatch it in an upside down DP bottle!

It is incredibly nutritous while it has it's eggsack (a few hrs after
hatching, it loses it). But, the cool part is, after it loses it eggsack, it starts
to eat and you can gut load it with anything! Fatty acid supplements,
spirulina powder, phyto pr paste, or my favorite Rosesomething from
BSD.


I also have a continuous culture so I don't have to hatch eggs, but I AM a
mad scientist!

Wanna try it?
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Originally posted by Suzy Suzy wrote:


I AM a mad scientist!

Wanna try it?


I don't know,

Is lightning involved?
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Suzy, help me decide.

Ive been growing all these great types of phyto but im not using any of it. Im cutting back on the species of phyto for now, but i'll still keep plates. I think i will focus on T-iso since it still has that green algae lurking in the culture. Im thinking about either rotifers or brine shrimp. Any suggestions? But then again, i really dont have much use for either of those. hmmm do aiptasia eat either. Im breeding aiptasia in hopes i can breed some of the aiptsia-eating nudibranchs.

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Aiptasia eats anything, right? Get it some cheap flake food from Petsmart!


If you want it to feed your reef, I would do BS, just because it is so easy.
Rots are easy but they need attention whereas BS you just hatch and
throw in the tank.


But, since you have live phyto, you could do a continuous culture of bbs.
It matures in about 2 weeks, then has live fry, so you don't have to hatch
anything! I just keep it in a 2 gallon leftover tank, and add a drop or two
of prime and forgetaboutit!

Jeff, no lightning! Just a little bubbler! You must come see the laboor-a-
tory one day!
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Suzy,

I will definately make it over one of these days. This semester is almost over so maybe just after the first of the year.
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Suzy, How do you seperate the eggs from the live artemia using the bottle method? Once they hatch I have problems with seperation....or do you run it all thru a BS net rinse and dump in in your tanks. I also like the idea of rasing them in a tanks with phyto. How do you seperate or catch the critters?
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I do not agree with Suzy. Rotifers are so extremely easy to grow. And they multiply extremely fast. They need no special attention. When the water loses most of it's dense green color, collect the rotifers by pouring 90% of the water through a coffee filter. Rinse the filter in your tank and pour a bottle of dense phyto into the rotifer bottle. This can be repeated at least weekly. It feeds SPS the best ever. See this thread:

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The reason I think BBS is easier is because you don't have to have a
culture of phyto or diatoms growing. I started this thread for those who
don't...

I myself think Rots are the mother of all evils! They will contaminate your
pod culture if they are any where on the same planet!

Both BBS and rots are only as nutritious (and thus, worth spending your
time to grow them) as what you feed them. Those of us who are
researching and culturing phytoplankton know the differences in value of
different phytos and I feel some aren't even worth growing! Rots must be
grown in phyto, and if your phyto has been contaminated, is it even worth
doing?

While rots must be cultured in live phyto, bbs can be hatched in old tank
water, water we just throw away anyway, right? Then, if not fed right
away, it can be gut loaded with something easy! Spirulina powder? Selco?
How nutritious is that? And, could it be any easier?

Plus, you can go on vacation for a week and not have somebody in to
tend your cultures!

Bob, when all the eggs have hatched, I turn the bubble off and the bbs
will sink to the bottom. I always set a timer so I don't forget, 'cause they
will croak after too long! I put a long piece of flexible tubing on a piece of
rigid tubing and use that to siphon it off. I REALLY recommend having a
syringe to start the siphon! Put the tubing in the hatcher when you turn
off the bubbler and it won't mess up the layer of shells.

You also can decapsulate the eggs before you hatch and then just throw
the whole dodad in!

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