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Topic: Need some help with new tank Posted: January 10 2016 at 1:37am |
So I just bought my first tank. It's a cadlights versa 42g. Anyways I love the tank and the look. But I can't figure a couple things out. First off with my return pump, it seems to work fine and move water like it's supposed to but the second I completely submerge the flow head the flow slows way down. I'm not sure what's causing this???? The second thing is I hard plumbed the tank and had a question on the height of the return drain. They recommend setting it up "durso" which I did I'm just not sure how high or low I need to put the actual drain opening in comparison to the overflow level. I'm probably not asking these questions correctly but if anyone understands my newbie jibberish please help.
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 2:25am |
I have my Durso set so it drains an inch or two below the overflow level so it doesn't create a cascading water sound. Not sure what's going on with the return pump.
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 8:09am |
When I bought my Cadlights, all the plumbing was included. Did you use your own plumbing? If not, all the pieces should be cut to the exact sizes.
I bet if you posted some images someone would be able to help.
Your return losing pressure is odd. The flow will naturally feel a lot slower underwater. How far underwater are you placing the return nozzle? It doesn't need to go super low because of back siphoning issues- unless you have a check valve.
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 3:29pm |
We went with the hofer gurgle buster standpipe on my Versa 42. Even though it came with all the plumbing I don't think we used much of it and in fact we had an issue with one of the bulkheads and just had to buy different ones. Here's a bad iPhone pic of mine sorry it's blue my phone doesn't like my tank
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 7:39pm |
Thanks everyone, So i think i figured the plumbing out as far as the Durso setup and it's sounding and draining much better.
I think i've come to the conclusion that either something on my return pump plumbing is wrong or the pump that came with the tank is just not strong enough and once it hits the water it just slows the flow way down. If i can figure out how to post some pics i'll show you what i've done.
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 7:46pm |

So the reason i put the Green tubing in is so i could use the adapter that came with the pump. i couldn't find a way to attach that to hard plumbing. Either way i got the same result. Turn the pump on it works fine but once it's completely submersed under water the flow cuts in half at least and then once i pull it out of the water it takes 5 or so seconds to get back up to normal flow.
Does this look wrong to i plumb the pump wrong?
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 8:22pm |
So the more turns the water has to do to get back to the tank it will slow the flow. Mine is plumbed with the return right below so oppsite yours. We also stepped up the size of the pipe. I'll get you a pic of mine hang on. I never tried using the pump it came with I used my DCT 8000 because it lets me choose the speed and we made it so I can have it almost all the way turned up which in turn makes it so I don't have to use a power head in my display.
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 8:26pm |
Okay here's my sump as I said before I didn't use the one the tank came with because it wouldn't fit in my stand so I have a 20 long under there. It's kind of a jumbled mess but you get the idea. I would bet that with all the turns for the return you have there that the pump just isn't big enough. This is an older pic and I have changed to where I don't use a filter sick anymore either I will get a better pic of it now here in awhile. 
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 8:33pm |
Ya, and that makes total sense, The only reason i did it this way is because that's what it showed in the picture. Those directions were terrible with the cabinet. So i have no idea why i even looked at how they had it set up  . I'm guessing i will want to replace the pump anyways because i want dual heads on mine just like you have yours. Where can i buy that dual head? and is it 1/2 inch?
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 9:42pm |
Are you talking where it comes out into the tank? That doesn't come with the pump I bought those pieces as I didn't like how short it was and only one out. I think I ordered off amazon I can look and see and send you the link.
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 9:52pm |
It was eBay I got mine off here's the link, you can get them with the flat nozzles on the end too just search eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-DUAL-NOZZLE-AQUARIUM-LOC-LINE-READY-FOR-AQUARIUM-USE-OR-SUMP-FREE-SHIP-/111720240637?hash=item1a030b95fd:g:CO0AAOSwPgxVOTDg
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 10:14pm |
Fewer bends and larger pipe = less friction loss. I'd start looking for a good used Mag 7 for that tank. Even better a DC pump with a variable speed controller on it.
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 10:47pm |
Here is the pump I am using but you will have to modify plumbing to receive more pressure http://www.amazon.com/Jebao-Jecod-Marine-Controllable-Water/dp/B00SQX5CCO
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 11:04pm |
Get that metal clamp out of your tank. Use plastic.
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 12:12am |
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Get that metal clamp out of your tank. Use plastic. | Good catch I didn't see he had that on there! I can't ever find plastic ones so we used zip ties:)
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 9:39pm |
DMower wrote:
Get that metal clamp out of your tank. Use plastic. |
I was told stainless steel clamps would be ok? But i'll pull it out just to be safe. Thanks!!
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 9:42pm |
So here is what i did, And it honestly didn't change the flow much. And i'm pulling the Stainless Steel clamp right now.
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 9:50pm |
Lots of the stainless steel clamps actually have a carbon steel screw.
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 10:01pm |
bstuver wrote:
It was eBay I got mine off here's the link, you can get them with the flat nozzles on the end too just search eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-DUAL-NOZZLE-AQUARIUM-LOC-LINE-READY-FOR-AQUARIUM-USE-OR-SUMP-FREE-SHIP-/111720240637?hash=item1a030b95fd:g:CO0AAOSwPgxVOTDg |
Ordered should be here next week. thanks!
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 10:03pm |
Fatman wrote:
Lots of the stainless steel clams actually have a carbon steel screw. |
I already switched it to plastic one that i had laying around. thanks for the info. not something i would thought of until it was too late im sure.
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