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    Posted: November 23 2011 at 10:19pm
Just checking my interpretation of supplementing these 2 chemicals.  I was talking to another hobbyist tonight.  He is new.  He was telling me that he was instructed to dose his cal and then no more than 8-10 mins dose his alk.  I was told  that you must give plenty of time between dosing these 2 chemicals because they counter each other if dosed to close to each other.  I forget the correct term used to describe this.   My params seem to be doing fine, but he said his were also.  Can I get some confirmation on this?
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Hate to steal a post but what is the difference between cal and kalk ? (forgive my lack of knowledge)
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Originally posted by Akira Akira wrote:

Hate to steal a post but what is the difference between cal and kalk ? (forgive my lack of knowledge)


Cal= Calcium (typically Calcium Carbonate)
Alk= Alkalinity (or dKH/ degrees of carbonate hardness)
Kalk is something different entirely. Kalk is Calcium Hydroxide which is dosed in the form of lime water. It is a great method but is recommended for hobbyists who have a moderate amount of experience.
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To answer the original question.  If mixed directly together, or close together, the calcium and alk solutions will precipitate and form a solid mass in the water. 
 
The directions on commercial products will tell you to add them seperately, but that doesn't mean hours or days apart.  When I first started in the hobby, I once added both together in a low flow zone of a customers sump.  Bad Idea. . . I learned quick and haven't done that again.  It formes a solid white mass on the bottom of the tank that took weeks to disappear.
 
  What I typically do is add my calcium solution to the overflow of my tank, wait a few minutes for it to disperse quicky through out the tank, then add the alk solution.  I never get precipitate this way, and paramaters stay stable.  8-10 minutes is plenty of time between the two in a high flow situation like your overflow.  I'm impatient, and dare say that usually I only wait 3-4 minutes.
 
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Thank you precipitate was the term I couldn't remember.  I cannot remember who told me , but they told me to make sure I leave plenty of time between adding  the 2, due to precipitation
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You are welcome, you should definately leave time between them.  But like I say, the way I described is how I do it. 

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