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    Posted: January 27 2011 at 10:49pm
Is it necessary to have an aerator in a SW or reef tank?  It is still needed when you use a protein skimmer? I ask because of the fine bubbles it produces :)
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Even with out a protein skimmer you can get the results of good Aeration with just good flow
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What Nick said. If you point a powerhead titled at the surface to cause a good amount of agitation that does the trick. Infact even though I have a skimmer I still do this to keep my oxygen exchange high.
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Welcome perryp.Big smile

The type of aeration used on freshwater tanks is not such a good idea for marine tanks. The popping bubbles create a spray of salt that builds up as salt caking on things above and around the bubble area.

If you tell us more about why you were asking we can share more helpful information.
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I have read that an aerator is 'required' for a SW/reef tank.  And I'm starting a 40g SW so I was just seeing if others had any input about this subject.  And if an aerator is nice to have , if the turn-over rate is high and if I use a protein skimmer would an aerator be needed.. Just some situational question about equipment :)...

On another note, I have a question about the return pump equipment.. I don't know how to really explain this part, so be patient with me lol still beginning :)...  Right before the water from the return pump in the sump flows into the tank, there is this little adjustable distributor that I have seen in some tanks.. I dont know what it is exactly, and am wondering if anyone knows what I am talking about :). Any info is appreciated :)
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Do you enjoy challenge? Do you enjoy something that requires a little technical understanding and sometimes problem solving?  Are you naturally curious about the natural world? Then this is the hobby for you.

I wonder if you may have confused aeration with water flow and gas exchange? In the ocean, water flow is often fast and turbulent, even below the surface. We try our best to create that in our tanks. The most effective way to do that is becoming more and more common and better understood, though most books and a lot of information out on the www has not caught up.
FYI, this is the look of the surface water of a tank using that method. Notice that there are no bubbles.

An ordinary inexpensive powerhead, positioned somewhat like in this next pic, is what creates that maximum benefit from minimum energy.


Regarding the second question, the best sump setups are the simplest. Located on the return, the "out" side of the pump they have only a flow adjustment valve. Anything else would be counter productive.

What you may have seen is a backflow preventer valve. This is a bad idea. They can, and most often do, fail. There are ways to design a system so that when the return pump stops for maintenance or in a power outage, the water from the display tank will not overflow the sump and flood the floor.

These are interesting questions; Smile more advanced than most new hobbyists. Have you seen some tanks? Would you mind telling us more about where you are coming from in your study of reef aquariumsQuestion


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I've only tanks I have seen have been from this website.  I'm just really intrigued and and excited to get started.  I don't want to start on a bad note :).

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I'll jump in on this one.

First- nearly all saltwater reef tanks are run without a bubbler.  In fact, I can't think of a single one off the top of my head.  They are certainly not needed, and often advised against (as you saw above).  I've seen them in some of the big aggressive fish only systems, but that's about it.

Second- in spite of this.... I am HIGHLY considering adding one to my tank.  I've been thinking about it for a few weeks now.  I was looking at Santiago's freshwater tank thinking "see, look how cool that is."  I would be laughed at by many people if I did it... but somehow I think I could pull it off.  

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Oh, and posting your location would be a good idea.  Lots of people willing to show off their tanks if you are up for a visit.  

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ps- I'm in Centerville, feel free to come by
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