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Posted: April 08 2009 at 12:34am |
so first off, I started my tank without a sump, which im quite regretting. I would love to add a sump so first off i cant drill, as the tank is already full, and has been for the last year. so first off im in a second floor apartment, so my wife is real weary of a sump because of leak/flooding issues. 2nd off she is real worried about looks, my current stand will not fit a sump under it, i guess i could make a box to enclose it but is that safe? well i guess my questions are
1, is there a way to be completley safe agaist flooding with an overflow box?
2. is it safe to enclose it in a wood cabnet built?
3. what is the min size i should do for a sump on a 60G
4. any other ideas, help, or suggestions?
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Posted: April 08 2009 at 6:19am |
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1. No, but you can buy a little device that you put on the floor and it'll set off an alarm if it gets wet.
2. It helps
3. 10g? That'd be cheap too
4. Sorry no :( IMO any time you transfer water between 2 containers, there's a risk of spillage. I have only had one minor flood in 2 years though so as long as things fit correctly, you "should" be ok.
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Posted: April 08 2009 at 6:43am |
1, is there a way to be completley safe agaist flooding with an overflow box?
There is never a way to completely protect against flooding, but you can do a few things to help insure it wont happen beyond extreme circumstances .
2. is it safe to enclose it in a wood cabnet built?
You could enclose the sump in a cabinet but you would need to have access to the sump on a daily basis for topping off the evaporated water. Also if you are worried about leaks in the "sump" area, you could always place the sump tank in one of those low profile Rubbermaid storage bins they make to slide underneath a bed or something.
3. what is the min size i should do for a sump on a 60G
I think you could get a way with a standard 10 but the more water volume the better. if you have the space for a 20g long that might work a little better.
4. any other ideas, help, or suggestions?
If you go with an overflow, you will just need to adjust the water level in the sump to ensure that if you have a power failure or something that all the water drains into the sump without over flowing. I ran a two tank system with a HOB overflow for many months and didnt have any flooding issues at all. Just take the time to plan it out before you jump in.
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Posted: April 08 2009 at 9:35am |
 solastsummer wrote:
1, is there a way to be completley safe agaist flooding with an overflow box?
Absolutely not. You can take all of the safe guards, Keep it incredibly clean and sooner or later it will have an oops.
2. is it safe to enclose it in a wood cabnet built?
Absolutely. As mentioned before it needs to be fully accessible for cleaning, top off, and equipment maintenance.
3. what is the min size i should do for a sump on a 60G
A 10 will work, kinda. You will need to use a fairly small return pump since you will have such a small water volume to work with. When running you will only have about 5 gallons actually in it. I used a 10 on a 29 and always wished it was bigger. On my 65 I used a 29g tank and wouldn't recommend using anything smaller. Since you will be building another cabinet to house it why not go to a size that will be very beneficial, rather than just getting by?
4. any other ideas, help, or suggestions?
It would suck but maybe its time for an upgrade? 120g or so |
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Posted: April 08 2009 at 11:56am |
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4. any other ideas, help, or suggestions?
It would suck but maybe its time for an upgrade? 120g or so [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
I would love to, but do you think that it is safe in a second floor apartment?
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Posted: April 08 2009 at 11:58am |
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4. go big enough to make your sump a frag tank too =) thats one regret I have
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Posted: April 08 2009 at 12:29pm |
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4. any other ideas, help, or suggestions?
It would suck but maybe its time for an upgrade? 120g or so [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
I would love to, but do you think that it is safe in a second floor apartment? [/QUOTE]
That would depend on the construction of the unit. In all honesty I would probably go with a 90 and a nice sump . That would keep you in the 120g range total. A 120 with sump would push you into the 150+ total volume.
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