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    Posted: February 14 2008 at 7:25pm
I have been using the Dow ice melt and baked baking soda/ normal baking soda method off of reef keeping.com 

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php

for several months now. I am using the baked baking soda mixed with water. Which it said for people who have a generally lower ph.

 I cant seem to get my ph high enough with ought bringing the DKH way out of wack!.
For example on a new 30 gal tank my ph started at 7.8. I had to add about 45 ml of this alk  stuff to bring ph to 8.4. Now the DKH is at 15-16! Calcium should be ok.

Same story on my 75 I have a ph of 8.0-8.1 and DKH is already at 11. ANd calcium is at 360 ppm. So its hard to bring the ph up with ought compromising DKH!

Should I just junk this stuff or what???
Any recommendations.....?
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Don't use the Baking Soda to raise your pH! 

If your alk is right your pH should stabilize on its own.  8.0 sounds good to me, I wouldn't worry about it any more than that.  I would definately worry more about where your alk is than where your pH is as long as it is somewhere close to normal (and yours look NORMAL).

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Is the low a pH a winter problem or an on-going issue. Open a window in the room where you keep your tank - wait a couple hours and see if your pH goes up.

In my other house I always struggled to keep the pH up when the house was closed up tight to keep the heat in.

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So 8.0 is ok ? ANd if I understand you right if the DKH is kept between 10-12 it will stabalize to what ? Im confused on that one.

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Your alk number is a measure of how much buffering ability is in the system to avoid large pH swings.  If that number is between 10 and 12 you should have enough buffering ability to keep the pH stable.  Shane H is absolutely right.  This time of year most low pH tanks are the result of poor ventilation and therefore higher CO2 levels in our homes.  This is just enough to swing the pH down just a tad, say to 7.8-8.0ish.  Do what he says and open a window for a day and see if your pH goes up .1 or .2.
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Another alternative to opening a window is, if you have a skimmer, run the air input hose out a window. This way the skimmer draws in fresh outside air...
 
But even a 7.8 pH is not a big deal if it is stable at that number and not bouncing around wildly
 
 
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my ph has been right around 7.8 for the last 2 years and I haven't experienced any problems from it being that low.
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Stable PH is more important than the exact number.

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Thanks! Opening the door once a day has seemed to help! You guys are awesome!
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