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Posted: July 13 2007 at 3:45pm |
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I want to try and make a suspended reef. Does anyone have a drawing pics of how to make one. Want to do it in a 45.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:03pm |
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Mark peterson did this in a 120, have you done a search on here for suspended reef, or something to that effect?
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:06pm |
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I saw his post, but it doesnt say how he did it.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:17pm |
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I believe Mark used PVC pipe and zip ties to hold the rocks in place. He showed it to me when I visited once.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:21pm |
I'm not sure if this is what you mean or not. These are home made PVC supports to keep the rock just above the sand. They are made with sprinkler pipe and fittings.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:30pm |
I want it to look like this
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:47pm |
What Mike just showed you will look like that. If I'm correct in remembering, Mark used grey or darker colored pipe where it would be visible to conceal the pipe that holds the rock above the sand.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:52pm |
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In the picture the stingray is under the rock. In Mikes picture the pipe would get in the way.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:54pm |
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That's where I think the zip-ties came in. Mark used just a couple of points for the pipe to come up out of the sand, and zip tied things in place to make it sturdy. In mike's picture, there are several pipes. If you experiment with different designs, I'm sure you'd be able to accomplish the same thing.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:55pm |
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 4:58pm |
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Sure, no problem. You may want to call or PM Mark to get a confirmation or any ideas. He's always willing to help. You could also speak with Dion (Holdencraft 33) because he has that tank that you showed in the picture now.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 5:38pm |
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You may want to create a stand out of the pvc and drill the liverock. The stand would be under the sand and you would have fewer points where the pipe came out. Insert the pvc into the holes in the live rock and you are set.
Think about some old chairs from say the 70's where they only have 2 legs in the front but the design supports the weight. If you don't understand what I am trying to say I can draw some pics later.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 7:40pm |
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Look on reefcentral as well. I know about 6 months ago I saw a thing on
there where someone used flexible PVC to make some cool rock formations
that only touched the sand in 1 place. Once again they used pvc and zip
ties. If I remember correctly they showed some pictures on how they did
it.
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 9:46pm |
If I was to do my tank again I would really look into do it like this:
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 10:34pm |
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I think im going to drill the rocks. They are around 40 pound rocks to big to zip ties.
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Posted: July 16 2007 at 12:53pm |
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That's amazing! I would think you would have to be selective of the type of live rock you are drilling and zip tying. Some of the more porous rock I have had in the past has been very brittle and could easily be broken. I wonder if Dion still has Mark's old tank set up in the same way? I am in the process of setting up a new tank and may have to research this some more. Thanks for the thread.
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Be careful who watches your tank! http://www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27846
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Posted: July 16 2007 at 1:12pm |
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I have a big 40 pound rock that im going to drill and the rest im going to zip tie.
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Posted: July 16 2007 at 1:36pm |
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Come and see it. Its still the same. Next couple of weeks it will be moveing into a 180 but will primarilly be the same.
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 4:57pm |
Has anyone had any problems with stagnant water developing inside the pvc structue? Do you pump water through it? Or are the holes drilled in it enough to keep it moving? After that pic of the 5ft bristleworm in that guy's pvc structure, I can't decide whether to seal it all off or drill it and pump it.
The example on RC that uses spa-flex looks very attractive. But I'd be afraid of it bending and collapsing over time. Does anyone had any long-term success with spa-flex bent under load?
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Posted: August 20 2007 at 5:37pm |
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Mine are sealed so no water can get in. I'm not sure if I would use spa flex to hold rock up. It will relax under weight.
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