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    Posted: August 19 2003 at 9:52am
this may have been covered here but i could not find anything on it. my xiena was doing fine till sunday. i did a 10 gal water change(RO salt) and sucked the gravel. it started turning white and getting smaller every day there is less there. all the other corals seem to be doing fine. anyone have any ideas? does xiena go sexual? if what causes it to do that?
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I think xenia is known to crash and come back w/out a lot of explanation. From what I understand it actually does this in the wild as well. I've also heard that it can't be proven, but I swear mine loves it when I does Iodine.
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i dose iodine to the specs maybe i'll try doseing again. see if that will stop the decline?
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For several year I had xenia growing like crazy in my tank. I was literally flushing the stuff down the toilet each month to control it. Suddenly - without a signs and without any noticable changes to any other corals, the xenia began receding. After about two months all the xenia has died. I was pretty happy for a while. I tried another small cutting after several months with the same results. Slowly receding and ultimately dieing. I still have no idea what caused the problem. I just don't keep xenia. ???
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Shane, are you talking about the normal run-of-the-mill "silver tip" xenia? or are talking about "pom pom" too? I've seen pom pom in old tanks that still looks good, but the only old/established tank I've personally seen that has good looking silver tip is the older display tank at Aquatica in Orem. I know the tank is sumpless, no skimmer and macro algae free (if I recall corectly). I'll have to ask Shawn what he thinks the secret is next time I'm in there.
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How many months or years are we defining a system as established?  Just curious.
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See the article "Lessons of Xenia" in the June 2000 issue of the Sea Star Online (look to the left in the blue buttons) Pretty good writing IMHO
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Jon, I think that tank you are talking about at Aquatica has an Ecosystem filter hanging on the back of it.
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Couldnt find the site that Mark was mentioning, guess the computer is smarter than I am.

I have had Bali Xenia for a while now.  I havent experienced the massive crashes that I have herd others talk about, but I will share a bit of my experience with you on these.  My Xenia is quick to let me know when I behind on Iodine doseing!  It seems to do well as long as I dose it with 2 mils every other day in a 125 gallon Reef Tank that I have.  If I go more than 4 days or so, it starts looking pretty pathetic on me.  Any more than that amount and my Starburst Polyps start "revolting" on me.

Mark, If you could please help the "handicapped" and tell me where to look for that article or e-mail me the link...I would be willing to graval at your feet, well-maybe I wouldnt go quiet that far but...It would definitly be appreciated!



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jfinch,

My xenia was the normal brown w/silver tip. It looked good in my tank, but it gets too big. I have has some pom pom xenia as well, but it never grew with as much vigor as the longbar. Similarly, it appeared to flourish and suddenly crash. Now that you mention it, there may be a correlation to the crash and the macro algae growth in my sump. I'll have to try and remember the timeline of events ...
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I recently had a huge colony of the silver tip xenia crash in my tank. I read that xenia doesn't tolerate high temps and I know my tank temp got high this summer so I attributed it to that. But, Shane, are you suggesting macro algae may be the cause?
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Here you go Imaexpat2, The link is www.utahreefs.com/seastar/wmasseastarjn00.pdf.

Its also on the menu on the left under "Sea Star Online"
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While you are reading this post, simply look to the far left on this screen. See the blue buttons for all the utahreefs pages? It starts with Home on top then count down 3 more buttons and click! Go to the first Sea Star listed which is June 2000 and you will find the Xenia article.
The WMAS newsletter, the Sea Star, has been published since 1995 when the club formed, but was not done electronically until 2000. Older issues are kept in the club library. It's been a while since a WMAS member volunteered to produce a new issue, probably because we now have this forum.
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Ahhhh......

I see said the blind man.  Thanks Gents!  I found it.  Seemed to be something I had already read before but its all good.  You can never learn too much!

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I have both silver tipped and red sea in my tank. Both are spreading like a disease. My xenia has had issues from time to time. But usually they don't recede. The fingers just don't extend and pulse rapidly. I asked Sean at Aquatica what he thought it was and he said if there is a water quality issue with the tank the Zenia will show it first. Beings that they are supposedly the easiest thing to grow I have to wonder if there is some truth to that. I have some silver tipped I threw in my sump for fun. The light is very minimal(one single 50w flourescent) and I keep it on 24/7 and it still doesn't affect the xenia. I do beleive in Iodine dosings.
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Hey Brian,
Maybe when you sucked the sand you stirred up something toxic to the xenia?
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peiji -

I do think there is a correlation between the rapid growth of the macro algae in my sump and the decline of the xenia. It may be that the algae consumed the nutrients that the xenia had been using for growth?
After this conversation, I checked the algae growth in my sump - it is also declining. One of my RD bulbs is out. Don't know for how long. Maybe I should throw some xenia in now and see what happens ...
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yeah traper thats what i thought but all my test came back fine. my star polps and mushrooms and everything else is fine. all the other polps are opening just fine. still thinking it might have gone sexaul but not sure?
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i think i found the problem my PH has been raising its now at 8.8 or higher my test kit only goes that high. now how do i decrese my PH? anyone know?
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Do you use any kind of PH Buffer???????

 

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