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    Posted: November 29 2004 at 3:44pm

One of our LFS's just got a shipment of REALLY nice ultra croatia clams, they are very blue!  LIke the one in the picture, and you can't beat the price.

 

Also I have noticed that Clams don't do so well if you are having algae problems.

I think algae and bacteria must be the number killer of clams (ok a side from people, I agree they are super yummy!)

What have you done to keep the bad stuff away from your clams?

1.  Don't add clams until tank is fully cycled.

2.  Don't let stuff die  (ha ha ha ha)

3.  Place clams under sufficient lighting.  (the bigger they get the more light they need)

4.  Once the clam has set its foot leave it alone (the less stress the better!)

My old one is on the left the new one is on the right.

 



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??????? who's the store and did you have one die or something? and how much??
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Aquatica in Orem

$35 - $45

And these aren't tiny tiny ones either, they are the 2 - 4 inchers!

Nope, never had one die, but I did have a red flame die on me agian, I'm replacing him with another clam.

 

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A little off topic, but have you ever heard of a clam shut on a fish
so hard it died?
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Wow you can not beat that price. Well you can but not
if they are as good as you say.
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No - but there is a story which I have read several times about a diver not having his buoyancy under control, landing on a giant clam and loosing his foot. Fact or fiction? Some of those giant clams are probably large enough :-)

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I know there huge I saw a picture of one with a scuba   
diver next to it and it was like 3 feet long
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They look better then the clam in my picture right over there

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Also the wto guys that I told about this went and saw them and they both bought one.

These normally sell for $75.00!  They are truely colorful clams.

I'm home now, but I'll be back up that way tomorrow.

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Kull, You said they are "super yummy!" Thats funny because when I bought my clam I was looking at and had to run to skippers for some chowder
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Anyway thats an excellant deal. One day I will have to check out aquatica. After christmas let me know when you are going to go.
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Originally posted by Kull Kull wrote:

3.  Place clams under sufficient lighting.  (the bigger they get the more light they need)

Actually, usually the bigger the clam gets the less light they need.  For 2 reasons.

#1  They have a larger mantel and can "catch" more light.

#2  As they grow bigger they become heavy plankton eaters, reducing their need for intense light.

Some of the hardest clams to keep are those little tiny guys (<3"), especially the maximas and croceas.  They have not yet mastered the art of catch plankton and need a huge amount of light to survive.

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I would like to add to Kull's list.

5. Feed as much phyto as you can grow or can afford to buy.

I have clams that are building shell much faster than any I have ever seen in a home aquarium. I feed a lot more phyto than anyone I've ever known, with the exception of the two past owners/manufacturers of Velvet Green. Since I use kalkwasser only for some top-off, but have no Calcium Reactor, I attribute the shell building to the exceptional clam health resulting from phyto feeding.

And I don't believe the common opinion that large clams need less phyto but more light. I have Squamosa, Crocea and Derasa clams and even a large Spiny Oyster. They all thrive with more than the average hobbyist amounts of phyto and light.

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Interesting that you should reverse what I had said about the light.  I haven't seen actual scientific write ups either way I've gone off word of mouth so I readily admit that I could be wrong.   Can you back yours up?  I think that you at least have the expierance that you can write from

 

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For me, it's my own experience and things I've heard over the years. Years ago, I read Giant Clams by Daniel Knop, which we once had in the WMAS Library.
<----- over there. It perked my interest.

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Originally posted by Jake Pehrson Jake Pehrson wrote:

Some of the hardest clams to keep are those little tiny guys (<3"), especially the maximas and croceas.  They have not yet mastered the art of catch plankton and need a huge amount of light to survive.

I have heard the opposite. The smaller they are, the less photosynthetic algae they have to survive on, hence the need for more plankton.



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Here's a brief synopsis of Daniel Knop's view regarding feeding, species by species.  http://www.reefs.org/library/article/d_knop2.html 

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In that I have have these two species:

T. crocea has adapted to the strong illuminated environment and therefore does not take up any floating particles such as phytoplankton or others.

T. derasa is also a "clear water clam" that does not filter anything. It has, in fact very sensitive gills that tend to clog when there is a high density of floating particles in the water, may this be planctonic food or just stirred up sediments from the gravel.

According to this article I should very wary of feeding them anything.

As a matter of speaking I shouldn't even stir up anything in the tank as it will clog them up.

Nothing much worse then a constipated clam 

 

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Originally posted by ssilcox ssilcox wrote:

I have heard the opposite. The smaller they are, the less photosynthetic algae they have to survive on, hence the need for more plankton.

I know that many people disagree with me on this one.  Including Theil and others.  I cannot site a reference for my above statement. 

I could be wrong.

Here are my personal observations.

When clams come in small (<3-4"), the only way I have good success with them is by putting them in very high lighting (halides).  If the lighting is intense they will live.  If it is not most of them will die.  Feeding the smaller clams does not help IME.

When I bring in larger clams 4-5"+ I can put them in a tank with VHO's and plankton and they do great (although the intense light doesn't hurt).  In fact most of them will eat up the plankton almost as fast as I give it to them.  The smaller clams only seem to intake a small amount of phyto (if any).

 

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Ok, so is it the light that gives them better color or the phyto?

(My clam is not very pretty!)
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