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Adam Blundell 
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 Topic: Reef Central- Finally Gone?
Posted: July 16 2009 at 8:38am |
Is Reef Central finally gone? The largest (really unprecedented) reef community which showcased the best and the worst in the hobby for a decade, has been taken down indefinitely. While it may have been plagued with controversy and drama and all sorts of wild tales, it was inarguably an enormous resource.
Early statements have indicated that it when Reef Central comes back on line it will be without all previous data.
It will be interesting to see if a centralized community will replace Reef Central, or if more concerted efforts will be put into local reef communities.
Adam
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Corey Price
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 9:09am |
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I noticed this. What happened?
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 9:16am |
 Reef Central wrote:
First, I would like to apologize to all of our members, sponsors and even our staff. We had a breach in our security systems, allowing easy access [by a hacker] to our very important files and database. Most of these items were either corrupted or completely deleted. We made the mistake of placing our back ups on the same server as which we operated the site on (yes, we know, a HUGE mistake). As for our sponsors, as per our agreement [very similar to user agreement] in the event... |
nano-reef had a database crash that wiped out 1-13 July and njreefers forum is currently broken. Scarry that it's all happening near each other.
Edited by vangvace - July 16 2009 at 9:23am
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 9:51am |
vangvace wrote:
and njreefers forum is currently broken. |
NJReefers need some website help. I'm surprised by the lack of info with their macna site. I sure hope they get that rolling soon.
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 9:52am |
Wow. I think utahreefs.com should be the new reefcentral. Think about the advertising revenue... 
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 10:39am |
Adam Blundell wrote:
NJReefers need some website help. I'm surprised by the lack of info with their macna site. I sure hope they get that rolling soon.
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Yes they do. The club doesn't really have anyone that does webpages for a living as far as I know and the presidency is doing most of the heavy lifting. (My help has been posting updates to the various forums in MACNA's name)
I've also learned that joomla stinks for forums imo, but that's a different rant I have.
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 11:36am |
On the site right now....
 vBulletin Message |
Hello RC Members.
Sorry for the interruption. We'll be back in a little while, I need to check something.
To the folks spreading rumors and making up quotes, it's pretty sad when you have to resort to lying to try and get members.
The truth is that during an upgrade to mySQL we encountered an error that needed to be corrected. Unlike most sites, our database is very large and routine checks can take quite a long time to run. That's one of the reasons why we're one of the few sites that runs a full nightly backup. We'll be back this morning with virtually zero data loss. Sorry to disappoint the folks forging the emails.
Slander and libel are pretty serious things.
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 11:40am |
Yep, I keep getting updates sent to me. It will be interesting to see how it all works out.
Adam
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 11:41am |
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Oooh - drama!
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 12:01pm |
ssilcox wrote:
Wow. I think utahreefs.com should be the new reefcentral. Think about the advertising revenue... |
We could go global start a empire!
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Here is what a customer said while on hold Oh my gosh! Did you open the door? I told you not to open the door. Dre is in here completely naked and he's got freak'n Macaroni and Cheese in his hands.
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 12:22pm |
ssilcox wrote:
Oooh - drama! |
Never from RC 
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 12:49pm |
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 1:13pm |
My post count over at RC (member since 2002) is 1/10th what is is here (member since 2007) -
Although RC can be a tremendous resource, I find myself continually at odds with alot of the information - and in particular opinions that are touted as absolute fact - that gets circulated on that site.
Examples - from my own experiences (paraphrasing here):
1) "That $90 EBay RO/DI unit you bought is garbage and won't even work; it will leak and fall apart and you will NEVER get '0 TDS water' from it becasue it is made in China...Unless you go out and buy a ($400+) Spectrapure MaxCap RO/DIsystem, your water will be no good..."
2) "Those Odyssea lights you have will burn your house down and their light output is 'wrong' will kill all your corals..."
3) "Your (Rubbermaid) sump will crack within the first month and you will be sorry then cause you saved a few bucks but your house floods..."
4) "Only Salifert (later responses changed to Elos or LaMotte) test kits work; your API kits can't be accurate..."
5A) "You can't get 50 scfh out of that (OTP3000) pump..."
B) After posting a Dywer meter shot w/ the ball pegged past 50 scfh - "That meter must be faulty..."
C) After posting my 'Double Octo" DIY skimmer build pics - "That's not possible that a single pump can run 2 skimmers - I think you photoshopped the pics..."
The absolute best for me though, is:
"Don't worry, I've helped alot of newbies like you get things straightened out..." 
So, I much prefer things here at WMAS...
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* Marine & Reef tanks since 1977 *
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Adam Blundell
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 1:17pm |
So, I much prefer things here at WMAS...
Me too!
Adam
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 3:36pm |
Always did, always will prefer the WMAS, even when I'm in Spain I'll be watching my "baby" grow!
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 4:08pm |
ya, there's no drama at WMAS...hehehe... 
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 4:48pm |
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I for one am very glad it is back up and running. It is a great resource when something is going on and you need help, and it is after 10pm Utah time. Seems like that is the bed time here on WMAS...lol. There is just a lot more people on RC, and the more people you can bounce ideas with the better off you are. You get good and bad information from RC, and local people too...often times one of the worst and best resources is the LFS. Its just one of those things you have to take information, and decide what is valid, and what you will use. I am glad it is back up, and glad to be a part of WMAS.(and PNWMAS, and PSAS, and Reef2Reef, ect)
Edited by downhill_biker - July 16 2009 at 4:48pm
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 8:01pm |
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We love WMAS! We are also members on 3reef, which we found before we ever heard of WMAS. It was very helpful in the beginning, but it is nice to be able to communicate with locals here.
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 8:26pm |
While reefcentral is most certainly an amazing resource where many advanced and new people can meet up I must say that it is extremely plagued with power trips... From the moderators. Kyle and I are not allowed to sell on there because we are "commercial" Like we are an undercover fish store. Kyle was kicked off for no reason and than had to fight to be reinstated because one of our club members is a moderator and does not like him. Which lead to the whole being banned from selling. Its all about cliques on that site. I try to go on there as little as possible
I wasnt suprised that there was a potential hack. they have burned bridges with many people because of their powertripping around. One of the mods even has a quote on his/her profile that reads...
"powertripping is a sport"
real classy
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 8:45pm |
Yah, I am not a big fan of RC.  A few of the mods have it out for me because they thought I was a store.  So they banned me, without a reason.  So I made a new screen name to find out why, and they banned me again.  Only this time they perma banned me.  No real reason other then I pissed off "beer guy"  So every few months a make a new screen name and see how long it takes them to ban me again.  Good timesÂÂ
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