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    Posted: December 29 2003 at 6:02pm
Hey guys and gals. I have doing a lot of reading lately at work since it has been slow. I just read an article about Nudibranchs and Sea Slugs and thought I would share some of what I have learned with all of you.

The term Nudibranch is used commonly when we speak about all sea slugs but that is not the correct term. The term Nudibranch actually only refers to the order of Nudibranch. But if you want to confuse the LFS use the term Opithobranch and that encompasses all seaslugs. Also, remember that the ending of "branch" is pronounced "brank" and rhymes with "spank".

There are many seaslugs mentioned in this article for controlling algae but I will only name a few. If you have a specific purpose, ask me and I'll review the article again.
Aplysia parvula will eat cyanobacteria and other red & green filimentous aglae.
Dolabrifera is a good one for eating diatoms and other filimentous algae.
Elysia genus seaslugs are supposed to eat Derbesia and Bryopsis. They incorporate the chloroplasts from the algae and need light to grow. They will live the best in a brightly lit aquarium. These are commonly called Lettuce Nudibranchs.
Ercolania seaslugs are reported to eat Valonia.
Bryopsis eaters are Caliphylla mediterranea, Placida dendritica, P. kingstoni, P. viridis, Limapontia capitata.
Chelidonura varians will eat the red flatworm Convolutriloba retrogemma.

If you ever notice a velvet ooze coming from your seaslugs its probably a toxin. Suck it out immediately. I guess I could have used the italic button but its too late now. Thanks everybody. Comments welcome.

Credit goes out to Marine Fish magazine.
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Marcus, what if I'm at work when it oozes toxin? Do I want one in my
tank, or should I just enjoy our bryopsis?
What is Derbesia? And Valonia?
Where can I get one of each?
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Suzy - rarely will they ooze. Only if they get pissed off. Not all of them do it either. Bryopsis will spead like the plague if you don't do something to control it. I have read that high dKH helps to control it and so does time. Valonia is bubble algae. Derbesia is another type of algae. Do a search on google. I hope you do not want either of each.
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Marcus I have heard that Nudibranchs are very difficult to keep and sont last long. I have been very interested in purchasing one not for algea control but because they are very good looking. I am not sure what type it is but I have seen the purple ones in local stores. Would you recomend buying one? Thanks for posting this btw.
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I would get one, just don't put them in a tank with anything that would pick at them because that would trigger an oozing. I like to get the different stuff so I would ask a LFS to order one or get one on-line. Do your research first to see what the diet is of the one you want to get first. Many Seaslugs can live for weeks or months without any food so people think it is doing good when really its starving. Just shink into nothing. So make sure you can feed the one you get.

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Jbruse has a yellow Opithobranch that is propagating or perhaps, more likely, it mated prior to it's arrival in his tank!
It is forming little clear sacs on it's side. There are about 6 sacs. In each sac a tiny yellow baby is growing. So far, one has dropped off and come out of it's sac. The baby was hidden when I was there and I didn't have my camera to take a pic of the adult and young, sorry.
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That would definately be something to get a pic of!

Hey marcus - what does the article say about the Chromodoris? I have seen these local and they are the most colorful nudi's.. errr - seaslugs...  I've seen...

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Chromodoris:
a. survive anywhere from a couple weeks to a couple months in captivity
b. they have short livespans in nature as well, not much longer than a couple months
c. almost impossible to feed, "cruel" to keep an animal that will inevitably starve
d. kind of like buying a bouquet of flowers, "look very pretty for a while, then they die."

Hope that helps. If I was going to buy a seaslug, I would buy one that I knew I could feed.
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I completely agree. Thanks for the info!
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So that pic ssilcox posted is the Chromodoris? That is what I wanted but I am not going to buy something just to watch it die.
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Yep, the pic I posted was one of the Chromodoris. There are a couple other color variations I have seen. All very colorful.

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I put a Chelidonura varians ("velvet nudribranch" at LFS) in my tank here at work to eat flatworms, and it's really quite fascinating to watch! It has a broad head with hairs on it and a little mouth in the middle which sucks the flatworms right up. I came back to work after Christmas, and it had doubled in size. I think the flatworms are reproducing faster than the slug can eat them though.

I have noticed slime all over the tank. It just disappears after a couple hours though. It's completely clear, so I can only see the bubbles which are trapped in it to know it's there. I just thought it was poop or something. It doesn't appear to be causing problems though, because I've had the slug for 2-3 weeks, and nothing has died or anything. Even the BTA is all out and bubble-tipped.
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I hate flatworm infestions! Are those flatworms the same as the ones we've discussed here before, the brownish orange ones?
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I found a nuibranch stow away!
I was down at the floating dock collecting stuff to put in my
refugium (macros n stuff) a few days later i notice this funny looking
white thing in there and sure enough it's some local nudibranch.
thought that was pretty cool. I can't really ID him though as it so
small, but I am assuming that it eats whatever it is it came in on. I
am going to try and go back and get some more stuff.
I know this is off topic but has anyone ever tried keeping barnicles? I
grabbed a couple of them, they seem to be ok, but I am not too sure
about feeding them.
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I've had barnacles but with no success.  I think they need tons of phyto and I just wasn't willing to continously add it.

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I would like to try barnicles. Any ideas on where to get them?
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Small barnacles are easy to get.  Almost any type of Atlantic rock will be covered in them.  Maybe Spargur could chime in here.  That is where I got mine, anytime I bought Atlantic rock.

As for large barnacles....  I'm not sure.

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Originally posted by Adam Blundell Adam Blundell wrote:

I've had barnacles but with no success.  I think they need tons of phyto and I just wasn't willing to continously add it.
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I just ripped mine [barnacle] off the dock. They still seem to be
doing ok, i got some kent phytoplex to feed them. I also grapped a
tunicate that seems to multiplying since i put it in the refug.. haven't
seen the nudibranch in a few days though.
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