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    Posted: December 03 2009 at 1:21pm
A buddy of mine has an acrylic tank he's trying to get me to buy. It's got a bunch of scratches though. How easy/hard is it to buff acrylic? What do you need? How long would it take? Etc. 
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I would call regional supply and see what they recommend. They have better ways to fix acrylic, rather than buffing.
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The only way to fix is either replace or buff, If the scratches are to deep they might not come out or distort the plastic,
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For small areas of the tank you can buy stuff from Marinedepot or the pet store up in Heber have it. It does 10 cubic feet of the tank. It can be used for wet or dry use as well. I have used it and it has removed them before. It is around 50 dollars. I bet Eric might even have it as well. If it is doesn't have anything in it then I woud buff for sure though.
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Do they make any kind of buffing product that is safe to use with your fish and corals still in the tank?
 
I have some milder scratches on my 225 that I would love to get rid of - but don't want to have to remove all the livestock and then drain the tank to do it
 
 


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I think the stuff snailson is talking about is reef safe
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Yes, the only problem is to truly make it look new it needs to be sanded and high speed polished , I would be more then happy to look at it and tell you how much it would cost, We have done plenty of these.
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Here is the link of what I used. I think I bought a few of them just incase. It looks good after you do everything. However it doesn't look as good as being polished like Eric says. http://www.marinedepot.com/Rainbow_Lifegard_Acrylic_Scratch_Removal_Kit_72000_Tank_Cleaning_Kits_for_Saltwater_Aquariums-Lifegard_Aquatics-RB1551-FIMTCK-vi.html

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A few years ago...
I was Stupid!  I was using magnets to do quick algae cleaning on my acrylic tank (150g).  So, naturally, the one on the inside picked up a piece of crushed coral.  With the "streaking" on the outside, it was hard to see the scratching going on, on the inside...I did a right fine job of messing up my tank...As a side note, it is much harder to clean algae and stuff out of scratched acrylic, then nice smooth acrylic.

Finally, I got a small acrylic sanding/polishing kit.  I didn't use the polish on the inside, but I DID sand it down...with all my fish still in it.  It was work, but it turned out great.  Keep in mind, It was a FOWLER tank, not a reef tank.  I had no problem with any of my livestock.

Well, other than having to chase them away from my hand, as they were AGGRESSIVE fish.  Eels, groupers, puffers, damsels, etc.


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I used a Korilia 4 to move the sanded acrylic into the overflow and into the sump so it didn't get all over the sand and coral. Mine turned out great, I did the same thing Summertop did, I wanted to clean my aquarium quick on night and what happens, I put a nice streak in it about 5 feet long. Can't tell now though.
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Originally posted by BobC63 BobC63 wrote:

Do they make any kind of buffing product that is safe to use with your fish and corals still in the tank?
 
I have some milder scratches on my 225 that I would love to get rid of - but don't want to have to remove all the livestock and then drain the tank to do it
 
 


ya, mr. clean magic erasers will remove minor scratches and it is reef safe. under water with coral and fish, no problem.
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I use the Magic Erasers all the time for removing algae buildup and love them
 
But, I guess my scratches are a little too deep for the Magic Erasers to remove
 
So I think I'll give that scratch removal kit a try
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From experience the fastest way to do it especially when the tank isn't set up and you want to do more then a couple little scratches is to sand the entire tank surface with an electric sander using 400 grit sandpaper, then 600 grit.  This will remove the scratches unless they are really deep in which case you would use 200 grit then 400 grit, then 600 grit.  I usually stop at 400 grit.  Then I use a high speed buffer about $40 from harbor freight, a good foam buffing pad from Superior Auto Paint, and a bottle of 3M Perfect-It Machine Glaze purchased at an auto body shop.  This buffs it like new in literally minutes. 


















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There is a series of "sanding" discs that 3M makes called Trizact. They come in progressive grits and are a wonderful product for removing scratches. I have the set and used them on my tank with good success. They remove material faster, cleaner and longer than sandpaper does. Not cheap and I had to buy full rolls of each grit but the do work very well. They are designed specifically for glass, acrylic and solid surface. I used one disc of each grit on my tank and they were still good when finished. They can be used on a random orbital or a backing pad.
 
 
For glass defect repair, corian and acrylic solid surface finishing. Precisely shaped pyramids wear away continually exposing fresh abrasive. Few processing steps, higher gloss level, effective surface leveling. Requires little water, easy touchup.


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If you look at the label on the polish rdbrown posted, it is from the same 3M Trizact line.
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I wish you would have told me you had this when I was buffing my tank I used a buffer on mine but I dont think I had the right pads
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