Utah Reefs Homepage
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Sump/Refugia Questions?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Sump/Refugia Questions?

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
meterman View Drop Down
Guest
Guest
Avatar

Joined: January 30 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 216
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote meterman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Sump/Refugia Questions?
    Posted: July 02 2004 at 7:20am

I have a 55G AGA system with three HOB filters and macro that just floats around in the tank with the livestock.  I am going to add a sump/refugia under the tank this weekend.  I bought a submersible Rio 10HF (Hyper Flow) pump for this.  I do not have an overflow, and don't have a real understanding of how overflows work.   Do I need an overflow?, If so, can I make one myself? How?
Will someone please explain?  I plan on doing this with PVC fittings and some 3/4" flexible tubing.  I'm looking for some advice on how to go about doing this with the one pump that I have.  I have not seen how others do this, so I'm making a go at it as is.

Thanks in advance!

Alex


 

Back to Top
Mark Peterson View Drop Down
Paid Member
Paid Member
Avatar

Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark Peterson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 7:57am
STOP

Unless you like to have water floods on the floor, do not do anything until you know how to keep it from flooding.
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:
www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244
Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
Back to Top
Mark Peterson View Drop Down
Paid Member
Paid Member
Avatar

Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark Peterson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 8:09am
This has been discussed here plenty. I suggest a search to read and view diagrams posted previously.

A simple hose/tube over the back of the tank leading to the sump/refugium will siphon water out of the tank and flood the floor unless specific measures and equipment are utilized to prevent it. Also during and after power outages, the overflow system must be designed to allow limited water to drop into the sump during a power outage and for the system to restart without having lost the syphon when the power is restored.

In addition to what you find in your search, I have a write up explanation and design of a simple overflow if you would like to email me and request it. To email click here:[email protected]
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:
www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244
Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
Back to Top
Bryguy514 View Drop Down
Guest
Guest


Joined: September 22 2003
Location: Bountiful, UT
Status: Offline
Points: 599
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bryguy514 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2004 at 2:20pm
What about using a check valve to stop siphoning when power goes out?
Back to Top
Kam Blake View Drop Down
Guest
Guest
Avatar

Joined: March 28 2003
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 103
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kam Blake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2004 at 2:31pm
I have a overflow box. It came off my 55. I got it on ebay for $40 with shipping. It can handle up to 800gph. That would be turning your tank over 16 times Hr. Thats with 3 u tubes. I used 3 but I was only pumping 600gph. Rio hyperflow 12.

I would sell the overflowbox for $25

Kamaron 808-1591

I never had a problem flooding.
Back to Top
meterman View Drop Down
Guest
Guest
Avatar

Joined: January 30 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 216
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote meterman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2004 at 2:40pm
I actually used Marks idea.  It works great!
Back to Top
Mark Peterson View Drop Down
Paid Member
Paid Member
Avatar

Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark Peterson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2004 at 8:38pm
Originally posted by Bryguy514 Bryguy514 wrote:

What about using a check valve to stop siphoning when power goes out?

No good. Don't even try it. It will get clogged and fail.

Have you asked for my article? Do you need to discuss? My number is below.
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:
www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244
Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
Back to Top
jglover View Drop Down
Guest
Guest
Avatar

Joined: February 10 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 576
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jglover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2004 at 4:17pm
I would look around for an overflow box.  It's just easier.  than a DIY box.
Back to Top
Shane H View Drop Down
Presidency
Presidency
Avatar

Joined: March 09 2003
Location: Brigham City
Status: Offline
Points: 7921
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shane H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2004 at 9:39pm
I have an overflow box (CPR) and it is rated to flow 1400 gph. I've never put it to the test, but I'm hoping to very soon.
Anyway, I suggest that if anyone has the chance to drill their tank in lieu of using an overflow box they should do it. There is just a much larger chance that the overflow will fail. And it will fail while you're on vacation - that's just when these things happen. Its some type of universal law or something. Mine failed while we were in Yellowstone a year or two ago.
Back to Top
Mark Peterson View Drop Down
Paid Member
Paid Member
Avatar

Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark Peterson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2004 at 11:56pm
I made a pretty decent, solid, and stable overflow for my current tank with 1.5 inch pipe. Because the tank is in the window and I didn't want to drill the back and because I will eventually move it to a new place, it just seemed better not to drill it at all. But I do agree that drilling a hole in the tank is better. And an uopper back or upper side hole, rather than a bottom hole, is just as efficient and frees a lot of space for LR and coral.
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:
www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244
Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.250 seconds.