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    Posted: September 21 2007 at 10:40pm
i have heard that certain species of fw fish can be acclimated to sw tanks? has anybody ever heard of this? from what i have read it says that guppies, mollys, swordtails a a few others can be switched over to sw, has anybody evere tried this? and did it work?
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Many people use mollies or guppies as the first fish introduced into their SW aquariums.  Dave Tea has a thriving population of SW mollies introduced into one of his greenhouse tanks. They were removed from SeaBase as I recall.
 
To answer your question: I have converted mollies. In fact, I did a regular acclimation from FW to SW. They did fine and spawned many, many times. It provided great, live food for a snowflake eel that was kept with them.
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Ive got a big Mono. Does great in Salt Water.
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Most fish that you would consider freshwater that can be "acclimated" to saltwater I would not really consider freshwater fish at all. They are better classified as euryhaline.

A good example is the Tetraodon biocellatus in my avatar. They are a secondary fish, most commonly found in freshwater in nature, but in aquaria they are usually more healthy and live much longer in brackish water. People on thepufferforum.com have successfully kept them long term at full marine sg also.

A good guide to euryhaline fish is the Brack FAQ link link2
Many of these fish will tolerate the full range of specific gravity as they may migrate from freshwater rivers, through brackish estuaries, to the ocean.


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i heard that goldfish acclimate to sw pretty easily. but that's just hear-say
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Most, if not all of the brackish fish do great. Monos, scats, archers, puffers, dragon and panther gobys.
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I've never heard of saltwater goldfish.
 
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so how exactly do you do it i have tried and killed numerous guppies and mollies.
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I would like to know the process as well, I have a ton of guppies I use as treats for my lion, and I would love to be able to throw my guppies into the tank I grow my brine in.
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The rule on thepufferforum is no more than .002 change in sg per week. Although I think this rule is more for nitrifying bacteria than fish. In any case, either make the transition very slowly, or try different guppies/mollies, as some species/types are more salt tolerant than others.
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I have acclimated a few types of FW fish to SW...The biggest problem I had was they did not have the instincts to live in a reef environment.  Eventually, they became food for an anemone.
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When my frogfish was still living.... I tossed a couple of guppies in the the tank, with nothing more than floating the bag for a few minutes.  I actually had one guppy survive for quite a while... I'm pretty sure you could acclimate guppies pretty easily.
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I will try a few tonight.  I have plenty to try with and I have another female ready to pop, so I think I can spare a few(if I have to)Sleepy
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i am going to try mixing a tank of brackish water and throwing them in there for a week or so and then make it more salty over time. i am hoping it would work i have tried to acclimate them over a few hours with a drip line, but it did not work the next morning i found them dead. so lets try it this way and see what happens.
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I still have a "saltwater mollie" from eight months ago he is like the turd that won't flush. LOL and as brutal as it may sound he went from fresh to salt with no problem. I would not recommend just dumping it in like I did.



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Well, I have "acclimated" a male and a female guppy into my brine tank. They have been there since I posted that I would try earlier this week. They seem to be doing fine as of today.  I will give them a little longer before I decide if I want to try putting them in my "display" tank

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Originally posted by IcyP IcyP wrote:

I still have a "saltwater mollie" from eight months ago he is like the turd that won't flush. LOL and as brutal as it may sound he went from fresh to salt with no problem. I would not recommend just dumping it in like I did.

 
Ive done this several times with mollies. They have about a 50/50 chance of survival.
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If they dont make it, I wont feel to bad.  They are just feeder guppies that I feed my lion fish for a little treat

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Originally posted by chk4tix chk4tix wrote:

Well, I have "acclimated" a male and a female guppy into my brine tank. They have been there since I posted that I would try earlier this week. They seem to be doing fine as of today.  I will give them a little longer before I decide if I want to try putting them in my "display" tank

 
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Originally posted by pa_reptileman_4 pa_reptileman_4 wrote:

so how exactly do you do it i have tried and killed numerous guppies and mollies.
My friend did it. You basically have to do very small raises in salinity weekly. No sudden jumps in salinity or they will die. =(
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