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Posted: December 08 2003 at 7:43pm |
Just bumped into this article while I was doing some research. Just wondered what you experts out there think of it?
http://www.icecapinc.com/rev1.htm
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Posted: January 12 2004 at 6:41pm |
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Well I was curious about this too so i emailed the author and this is the reply I received:
"Hi, Trevor, we ran the bulbs for about 3 years and at the end we were still getting good growth from the corals. I will be doing an update soon, once the
tests are over, on the newer T-5 bulbs (same IceCap ballast)which are fantastic. SC
> I recently read your article about NO Bulbs on VHO Ballasts that was written in 1999.It was on Icecaps website.I was just wondering if your position still stands and how long of life you get from your NO Bulbs?
> Thank You, Trevor
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So I decided to give it a try. I bought a used icecap 430 with wire and 4 endcaps for $65 and 2 NO Phillips Daylight Deluxe Bulbs for $5.97. I plan on getting an NO actinic to go with it. The 2 Phillips bulbs lit nicely and are running right now...(all I need to do now is build a hood). As my little project continues I will post updates on how the NO bulbs do.
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Posted: January 12 2004 at 6:43pm |
Here is a pic.
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Posted: January 12 2004 at 7:58pm |
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wow! pretty cool... keep updating this thread. i'm interested in your results and impressions. i'd love to see a pic of your tanks when you get them on.
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Posted: January 12 2004 at 11:08pm |
k so i pieced together a crap hood and used aluminum foil to reflect (just to see what kinda results i'm gonna get)...but before I post the pic don't make fun of the bio-wheel and the rock placement as this tank is slowly coming together....my 30 gallon looks better I promise 
the lighting is rather yellow in comparison to what I am used to -(20k MH)....so if anybody knows where I can pick up a cheap NO Actinic plz tell me...
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Posted: January 12 2004 at 11:13pm |
Here is a pic without using a flash....
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Posted: January 13 2004 at 1:30am |
The cat makes the photo!!
Commercial Lighting Supply used to carry them for $19 but sold out and didn't reorder because they move so slowly.
I have an old used NO blue tube from somewhere. It's not actinic, just "blue" because that's what I wrote on it to keep track of it!  You can have it for nothin' Call me at 296-1563
Do you need to know where to get mirrored aluminium for your reflector?
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Posted: January 13 2004 at 5:18am |
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Commercial lighting ordered some for me. It took about a week.
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Posted: January 13 2004 at 7:36am |
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great thanks guys....Mark I will be giving you a call this evening...
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Posted: January 13 2004 at 3:43pm |
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Trevah - I don't know where you're located, but I have a used NO actinic bulb you can have (36").
I'm in Brigham City. Let me know.
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Posted: January 13 2004 at 4:02pm |
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Shane,
I grew up in Brigham City what part do you live in? Anyhow thanks for the offer but i'm running (48"). I'll have to stop by your place sometime and see your tank (my parents live in Mantua).
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Posted: February 05 2004 at 4:00pm |
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Is there a local source for Icecap ballasts? I know that I can order one online, but I would like to get one soon.
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Posted: February 05 2004 at 4:18pm |
i was just wondering about this thread a day or two ago ... any updates Trevah? any new pics?
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Posted: February 05 2004 at 4:28pm |
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quix, most of the LFSs in the area carry them. I'm pretty sure I've seen them at MSM, BW, F4U and the Aquarium... so north to south, I think your covered.
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Posted: February 05 2004 at 10:59pm |
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ill take pics soon...tomorrow....
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 10:30pm |
 Trevah wrote:
ill take pics soon...tomorrow.... |
well better late than never...
here is a pic of my rbta
3 different NO bulbs...still need my actinic 
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 10:53pm |
really nice! thanks for sharing! 
OK now for a slew of questions!!!
do you feel like your tank is doing well?
do you feel like everything is healthy?
have you noticed any differences in the "progress" of your tank VS. other types of lights ( VHO, PC, MH )?
how is your coralline algae growth?
what is the overall color of the lighting in your tank?
what are the colors that each those bulbs put out?
whew! thanks!
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 11:42pm |
ok...
i feel like my tank is doing great...
i have lost a clown due to ich...but not light related
in comparison to my other tanks this one seems to have be growing coraline algae faster than my 30 gallon with the 175w MH that is 20k...too soon to tell with my 20 gallon with the pc...
now color...i definetely like the 20k MH better but I need to put an actinic in...but apart from that the color is still really good....being around it all the time makes it hard to be a good critic...maybe Torghn or Leviwin can chime in and say what they think...but they haven't seen it with the Plant Bulb...
Plant Bulb - no idea on color (the shade is between pink and orange  )
Verilux - Mark?? It says it's full spectrum but I don't think it is as white as the typical 10k...prolly around 8k as it is a tad bit whiter than the daylight deluxe...
Daylight Deluxe-6.4k as per the manufacturer...I don't believe overdriving it causes a change in the color...
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Posted: February 16 2004 at 11:53pm |
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thanks Trevor ... very cool! this seems like a very nice alternative to PC or VHO ... how many bulbs can you run on the 430? how about the 660?
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Posted: February 17 2004 at 8:30am |
Here is a link....to be honest I would buy the 660 over the 430 because you can run 1 more 48" than the 430 and you can use the dimmer with the higher loads on the 660....but I guess it's not that big of a deal anyhow here is a link to the bulb specs... http://www.icecapinc.com/flapp.htm
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