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    Posted: January 24 2006 at 7:49pm
I have recently started up a new tank and on the cabinet that covers the top has no lid. The cabinet is oad and so I got me a piece of oak to make a lid to attach the lights to. The rest of the cabinet is stained and when I went to get some stain I told the people at the store it was for a fish tank and they mentioned special stain should be used or it will kill your fish If someone knows more about this could you please help me. Thanks
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I disagree,  unless the stain/finish gets IN the tank it is of no real threat to your fish.

You should however make 100% certain that the top is cured so that no vapors are being released anymore.  you know the whole apply in well ventilated area thing.

as far as the stain you use, i would just find a minwax water based stain that matches what you have.  stain it until you are happy with the color or possibly just a touch lighter than what you want the final product to be.

i would then do a minimum of 3 coat of a water based polyurathane in "gloss, semi, matte" according to the shine you want the finish to have.  the poly is going to be the best protection you can easily achieve against mosture.  these 3 coats will darken the stain below just slightly, and more "yellow" it than darken it in most cases.

if you get really worried you can look into something called "spar varnish" which is what boat builders finish boats and things with.  unfortunately it has a VERY long drying time which will turn your project from a week of finish applying into a minimum of a month.

as far as the store did they happen to mention waht this "special stain" they know about actually is? i'd be curious to hear what they think is going to kill the fish that isn't in the special version.
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What if I painted the bottom white to get the best reflection of my light and stain the top?
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The person I talked to at the store said he had a fresh water tank and stained the top and in a short time his fish went belly up. He watched the water get on the underneath side of his lid then drip back into his tank. This is what he thought killed his fish.
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Make sure you seal the stain like Dnellans said and you will be fine. Painting it is another option, however you run the risk of the moisture getting under it and the paint pealing off.
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Another option is an epoxy paint finish.  They are impervious to anything and don't have the curing time of a spar finish.  The key here is making sure you cover the entire surface.  Any little pinhole exposure will enlarge if moisture gets in it.
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Check out this guys DIY. He seems to have some good ideas.

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Don't sweat it!  Buy whatever stain/top coat you like and just do it.  Let it dry before using and you'll be just fine.
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I PERSONALLY ran a 55g with a homebuilt stand and lid. It had white pine. minwax? stain and a minwax outdoor padio semigloss finish on it. I had probably two coats on it. The humidity got high enough in the lid that there was a small amount of fungus on the inside. I ran it for at LEAST a year with no problems, that weren't natural. I can get the exact name of the stain if it is that big of a deal. The other guy had other issues he accured to the stain, or maybe it's cuz it was unsealed. PAint on the other hand has a lot of wierd chemicals that could leach into the system. I'd be a little learry of that. But it most certainly could be done. There is reflectife aluminum plates that are thin and readily available to put however you want in your hood for reflection....
I will just give my warning that your system will flood, bulbs will burn out, and things will take continuous maintenance... get over it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dnellans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2006 at 6:08pm
I think epoxy paint is overkill for what you need, although a good idea.  Aluminum reflectors will reflect FAR more  light than white paint as well.  I still think you should stain as you see fit and then do 3 - 5 serious coats of polyurathane and never think about it again.  i have built several stands and my current one has had the lid on it for 2 years now with no problems at all (and that was only 2 coats of varathane)
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I appreciate the help I got, I did end up with spar varnish, I'm on my second coat. Where would I get reflectife aluminum plates? I would be very interested it this. Thanks.
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