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Posted: August 19 2004 at 3:03pm |
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I have a typical 55 gal tank with 288 watts of daylight and actinic bulbs for lighting (5.2 watts / gal). Clams have struck my interest recently. Would any type of clam do fine under my lights? Any advice would be appreciated.
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 3:33pm |
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Maybe a T. Squamosa or T. Derasa, but could you provide a little bit more information about your setup please? How far into the water are you thinking of putting the clam and what type of lighting do you use?
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 3:52pm |
I am using PC's. I would like to place it on the substrate. This is about 16" from the lights.
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 3:53pm |
a brown derasa high up in the water should be fine. But don't get any nice colors until you have MH Lighting, or they will just turn brown and probably die.
And what is your breakdown of 10K to acitinics
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 3:56pm |
(2) 65 Watt 10K daylights, (2) 65 watt actinics, and a 50/50 28watt.
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 3:57pm |
maybe a squamosa, but I don't know how it would do long term on the substrate. How much of the 16" is water?
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 3:59pm |
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14" is water. It's sounding like it would be better if I were to put one higher up on the rock...
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 4:03pm |
You may want to go onto the forum over clamsdirect.com too. They have a ton of good info there too.
Oh, maybe, but definatly look into, the possiblity of a golden T. Maxima. It wook have to be kept high on the rocks though
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 4:09pm |
I had one in a 10 gallon with 2X32 on it and did just fone, mantle was open and it lived I moved it to a new tank, and it didn't get enough light.
The tank it was at the 16-18 inch level under 2X36. SO I would agree, that it probably needs togo higher.
These are my clams now.
They both sit on the bottom at around 17 inches, they open under the PC lights, but didnt thrive until I added the MHs.
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 6:31pm |
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Another opition might be if you could provide natural lighting. My boss has one on the bottom of her tank. The lights are not strong enough to support a clam. However, it get natual sun/evening light and is doing great.... Just a thought and way cheaper then MH's..
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Posted: August 19 2004 at 6:40pm |
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 12:10am |
The owner claims these two clams are doing well in a low light area, the front left corner of this basement tank lit by 4 55W PC's!
Personally, I love clams in natural sunlight. Pics coming.
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 7:34am |
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Natural light? I hadn't thought of that, however the way my tank is set up it does get indirect sun light in the morning and direct sun light in the evening. Thanks for the advice. I think I'll start with a small brown derasa. Has anyone seen any decent looking ones around the LFS's lately?
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 8:21am |
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I am pretty sure that aquatica had a really nice one last time I was there.
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 9:01am |
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The other thing to think about keeping clams under low light is definately supplement feeding with some sort of green water / phyto. It will not be getting as much sustanence from it's symbiotic algae so you need to supplement it to keep it happy
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 9:18am |
Also if you decide to get a clam smaller than ~3" you may have to bowl feed daily to make sure it's eating enough.
Bowl feeding is when you place the clam in a bowl of water, place it in sunlight and add some photo (like DT's) until the water turns green. Once the water becomes clear again the clam goes back into the tank.
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 9:42am |
Orrr....  You can cut a 2 liter bottle in half, place it over the clam, then put the DT's/phyto/whatever in the bottle half. That way the dt's is being target fed. Might be easier than taking the clam completely out of the tank
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 1:13pm |
 ssilcox wrote:
The other thing to think about keeping clams under low light |
I know I don't have halides, but I didn't think that 5.2 watts/gal was low? 
Unless your Adam...
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Posted: August 20 2004 at 1:53pm |
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The main concern is the light penetration, especially if you are placing the clam on the bottom of the tank. I.e. a 96 watt halide (which isnt available but for arguments sake only) is going to penetrate the water and give more light to your clam at the bottom of the tank than a 96 watt PC would/could
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Posted: August 24 2004 at 3:58pm |
Here's something to think about...
Crocea Clam kept under 440w of VHOs in a 55g- 8 wpg placed half way up the tank.
Same crocea clam after being under MH for less than 3- months
Another pic...
Mark, how long has those clams been under the PC??
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