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    Posted: April 25 2009 at 11:27am
I thought I would start a thread here locally for anyone that has questions about T5's and what combos to run. There is a HUGE thread on RC about this but I like to hear from local people and keep it here on our site. So if you have experience with T5, share your knowledge here!

Here is a great site for all things T5:

http://home.comcast.net/~stevelarsen00/site/?/home/

That site is a little outdated but still a great starting point.

A great article on T5's from Anthony Calfo:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1637546


So let me know if you have any questions regarding T5's.


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Nice idea Ryan.  If I remember I will post my current bulb choice and setup with pics of the tank just so people can have a visual.  I defiantly think t5's make colors pop compared to my mh's
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I saw this deal when during my search for t 5

60'' Aquarium Light T5 HO 12x 80 NEW Moon Lunar Reef
 

I was wondering if any one heard or used them before.

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I haven't heard anything on them but would suppose they are pretty cheap in the end. When it comes to fixtures, you get what you pay for. The bulbs would need to be replaced within the first 6 months. That is another $250 or more. I would just look into (2) ATI Sunpower 6x80W.

They make some bold claims that can not be backed up. For example they say, "Best reflectors in the industry." That is not a true statement. ATI has the the best reflectors available but we can't buy them here in the states, yet. After ATI it is Reefgeek, Aquactinics and IceCap. It would be nice to get a fixture and test it but I am not gonna throw away $700 to find out. 

The best fixtures are (in order):
ATI Powermodule
ATI Sunpower
Aquactinics Constellation and TX5
The new Sfigoli's are supposed to be alright, but EXPENSIVE!
Tek Fixtures
Current USA
Ebay knock offs - avoid IMO.


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I hear the ATI are the best and the brightest. I dont even know what to think about the difference compared to my TEK.  I had to reduce the amount of "light" time compaired to my mh's because it was starting to bleach out my corals.  However with the reduced light period, I can still keep my monti plate alive sitting on the sandbed.  If I had the money to get an ATI, I probably would but my TEK seems to be working great for a "decent" light.  I do have mine cooled which helps.
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Cooling a TEK will increase the output by about 20% and DO NOT run an acrylic shield on them. It traps the heat in and fries the ballasts. On my 40 Gallon, I am torn on what to do. I really want the ATI Sunpower but I wouldn't be able to keep any of LPS happy because it will be too much light for them. I have thought about the Tek instead but am a little cautious and weary.

I have also thought of having a canopy built and going with a retro fit kit instead. Decisions, decisions!
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Well with my TEK, I did have to shade a few of my LPS so I can only imagine the power of an ATI.  I had enought reflectors and ballasts to do a full 8 bulb t5 retro but decided to go with the fixture for a cleaner look, eventhough I have a canopy.  I have been happy with the TEK so far, just need to get this Da** redslime under control still

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Great information. I was looking at the ATI Power Module 10 80 watts, but's it about 1500. Ouch! Do you know if the light will be enough for coral at the bottom of my 24" tank?
 
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Enough light with the ATI? Yes the ATI will be plenty of light on the sand for SPS. Some people have had to shade low light SPS with the ATI's.
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As Ryan said, Yes the ATI would easily work well on a 24" deep tank.  As I stated above I have an 8 bulb TEK and on my 24" I am keeping sps frags on the sandbed with no problems.  So the ATI, which is much more efficent and better then mine, would have no issues.  You might even have to much light
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Because I said I would post some pics of my lights, here are some crappy cell phone shots.  I will swap these out with pics from my real camera in a few days.







And here is a "before and after shot" with my mh's.  I shot these with my Canon Rebel but did not use flash or do any after processing so that it was an accurate depiction of the brightness of the lights. 

MH's -
2 - 250w mh
Pheonix 14000k bulbs running on Icecap ballasts.
4 x 54 watt t5 actinics on Icecap 669
 
T5's - 8 bulb TEK 48" fixture
FRONT
ATI Blue Plus (311)
KZ Fiji Purple (330)
ATI Blue Plus (311)
ATI Aquablue Special (336)
KZ Fiji Purple (330)
ATI Aquablue Special (336)
Blue Actinic 03 (???)
ATI Blue Plus (311)


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Craptastic.   lol
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Jeff, its good to see your still alive.
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I couldnt stay away for ever.Big smile  Love the thread, thinkin hard on the t-5s, My halides are "craptastic"  lol.

 

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I was scared at first thinking about switching from the "old faithful" mh's, but I think I made a great choice.  The colors of my corals are amazing now and the lights really make everything pop.  I was worried about not being able to keep SPS on the sandbed, what I should have wondered about is if I now have to much light. lol 
Also, I am looking forward to seeing how much of a difference the light will make on my power bill.  I went from running 716watts total lights to only 432watts. 
I know I have heard a lot about the "shimmer" effect that mh's give  off as a reason not to switch. I personally love the shimmer effect, however I have seen the same effect achieved with a few white LED's. I may add these to mine but there is no rush, the tank looks great. I just wish my corals would grow quicker. (this tank has only been up for 4 months now)
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Many will argue and disagree but T5's have shown time and time again they out perform MH if set up properly. The industry is moving towards T5 and LED. All the MH people will be left in the dust clinging to an old technology. Keith is proof that watt vs. watt the T5 win. The only time to you need MH is if your tank is over 30" deep but even then you just have to be selective where high light corals are placed.
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That's an awesome picture!  I use a pair of the T5s off our 120 to light our garage Smile
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thought you sold the 120?!!!  
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LOL  that cracks me up, a discussion on what lights your tank better and you have yours to light your garage.  LOL
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Nice to hear from you Jeff! I did sell the 120!  I guess that was what I was trying to say... I liked the T5s so much I kept them haha. 
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