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    Posted: April 12 2006 at 4:25pm
this is my first DIY and im tryin to turn a 10 gallon glass tank into a refugium/sump. if anyone has designs or can explain what to do that would be great. maybe some pictures so i can copy. any input would be awesome and help a lot.
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one more thing real quick. i have a prizm skimmer that is HOB. does anyone one have experience with this skimmer?how can i add it to my sump? they say they can go in-sump but im not sure how.
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I have a Prizm skimmer...It is VERY sensitive and needs constant adjustments.  It also requires frequent cleaning or it quits working.

The problem you will have with puting it in your sump is water level.  It hangs over the side of the tank.  If your water level goes too low, it can't suck up the water.  Generally, a sump isn't filled to capacity.  Otherwise power failures means overflows. 

 

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Below is a pic of my Refugium/Sump. It's pretty complicated.  

Also, I can send you plans for a DIY overflow. Just email your request by clicking here: [email protected]

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yes pretty complicated refugium there that must have taken hours to design and build. but DIY is the way i have to go now with ich killing my two most expensive fish!
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Check out your other post where I inform about how to control Ich.
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yes i saw that. thanks for the help i am headed to the aquarium for some copper and garlic. i guess i made the mistake of puttin them in a different tank. the guy said its gonna be tougher to kill now. i also freshwater dipped them last night. wish me luck if i can save these guys i know they are hardy! mark can you email me the DIY plans for the overflow please.
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Ryan, If you have not already spent 25.00 on a bottle of garlic extreme. Fresh garlic from the corner store will do the same thing and there have been studies  that it even work better.
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thank you guys for all the help. i just got garlic extreme from the aquarium it was like 13 bucks and some copper. how long should i leave the fish swimming in the copper?
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how full should a sump be? like in a 10 gallon sump how many gallons should actually be filled with water?
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the sump level depends on your overflow stop point.  The sump should be able to handle all the water the overflow will drain out of the tank without overflowing onto everything, before the water stops coming through the overflow
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Originally posted by Connie Connie wrote:

Ryan, If you have not already spent 25.00 on a bottle of garlic extreme. Fresh garlic from the corner store will do the same thing and there have been studies  that it even work better.

Connie, I'd like to read those studies, because you are the only person I know who has good results with fresh garlic.

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so here is my problem im running into, i need to put my skimmer on my sump and for that to be able to happen is if i fill my sump 3/4 of the way full. if power goes out my sump will overflow. i was told on the overflow to drill a hole an inch from the top. what if i drilled it like 3/4 an inch or 5/8 of an inch from the top water level. is that ok? 
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is your tank drilled? .. Are you talking about drilling holes in the U Tubes for a HOB overlow? ... if you are .. this will not work ... if the power goes out it will loose suction than when the return pump turns back on your main tank will overflow .....
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