| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
P.Kapp 
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
 Post Options
 Thanks(0)
 Quote  Reply
 Topic: 125 to 210 Build (Updated w/pics)
Posted: June 19 2010 at 5:15pm |
After watching a few others recording their builds and getting questions answered along the way, I figured it was probably a good idea for me to do the same. I cant remember all of the questions i have thought of along the way, but ill post more as they come to me. I tried to draw a rough idea of what my tank will be kind of be like, so i can figure some things out with flow. I have 3 koralia 3's, and im trying to figure out the best way to put them in the tank. i think i really would like to keep them in-between the two overflows. I was also thinking about pointing my returns down to keep detritus from building up behind my rocks. Also, not sure on that one..?
Edited by P.Kapp - July 31 2013 at 6:12pm
|
|
Preston Kapp
210 Gal Reef
|
 |
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 19 2010 at 5:37pm |
here is a picture of my stand almost done. just need to finish the doors and buy some new hardware to put them on.
Here is my new sunpower 80w ATI. The arm that holds it is in the works now...
This is my 100 gal RO storage tank. Just built the stand for it and put the drain on it. Built the stand so i can put a bucket or water just under it. still need to cut some particle board and put it on top of the stand before im totally done. Thats why it only has about 20 gals in it right now.
And this is my reef octo skimmer that Skyler hooked me up with. Im pretty excited to see it running
Since im already loading pictures, i figured i might as well put a pic up of my new bike  Its a mini build for me on the side... ha ha
|
|
tcfab
Guest
Joined: October 18 2008
Location: North Ogden
Status: Offline
Points: 1480
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 19 2010 at 7:57pm |
Did you get that bike from Chappy? looks good 
|
|
Need custom acrylic work? give me a call, www.Elite-Aquatics.net (801)645-6386
|
|
Nick801
Guest
Joined: July 03 2008
Location: Sandy
Status: Offline
Points: 4155
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 20 2010 at 1:14am |
|
man thats going to be a sweet tank... do you have a few more pics of your stand build?
|
|
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 20 2010 at 1:25pm |
 tcfab wrote:
Did you get that bike from Chappy? looks good |
I picked it up from a guy in Riverton, but it was mostly built here in Roy by K&T Performance. It was just a hillshooter when i picked it up, but have been changing some stuff around so i can dune it too. Thanks for the compliment!
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 20 2010 at 1:28pm |
Nick801 wrote:
man thats going to be a sweet tank... do you have a few more pics of your stand build? |
Thanks Nick! I didnt actually build the stand. I just repaired a few things, and repainted it. I wish i was good enough to actually build something this big. I was going to take some before and after pictures, but just never got around to it. now i wish i did. oh well
|
|
tcfab
Guest
Joined: October 18 2008
Location: North Ogden
Status: Offline
Points: 1480
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 20 2010 at 9:18pm |
Your light is going to look really sweet, I am excited to start on it for you 
|
|
Need custom acrylic work? give me a call, www.Elite-Aquatics.net (801)645-6386
|
|
CapnMorgan
Guest
The Capn'
Joined: August 19 2009
Location: Tooele
Status: Offline
Points: 3537
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 20 2010 at 10:09pm |
|
You will want to point your returns up for a couple reasons, one is too increase the surface agitation for goos gas exchange, the other is when you have a power outage you will siphon water our of your tank down to the level of your return nozzle. So by raising your returns you cut the rick of flooding your sump way down. The majority of the circulation should be done by powerheads or a closed loop rather than by your return pump.
|
Steve My Old 180G Mixed ReefCurrently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 21 2010 at 11:05am |
tcfab wrote:
Your light is going to look really sweet, I am excited to start on it for you |
Im pretty excited too! Thanks again
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 21 2010 at 11:07am |
CapnMorgan wrote:
You will want to point your returns up for a couple reasons, one is too increase the surface agitation for goos gas exchange, the other is when you have a power outage you will siphon water our of your tank down to the level of your return nozzle. So by raising your returns you cut the rick of flooding your sump way down. The majority of the circulation should be done by powerheads or a closed loop rather than by your return pump. |
Thanks Capn. Do you think the three koralias will do a good enough job positioned where they are in the drawing?
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 21 2010 at 11:09am |
|
Also, I was thinking about my return pump. I was originally going to try to use a big waterfall pump for my return, but it was way too loud. So now i have a Rio 32HF that im planning on using. Is that going to be enough? I also have a Rio 2500, and a Rio 1700 sitting around that i could use if two pumps would be better?
|
|
CapnMorgan
Guest
The Capn'
Joined: August 19 2009
Location: Tooele
Status: Offline
Points: 3537
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 21 2010 at 1:50pm |
|
I would say the 32HF will be fine for your return. I would think that 3 koralia's would be plenty. I would put one on each end and one in the middle on the back. You could create a lot of beneficial turbulence that way.
|
Steve My Old 180G Mixed ReefCurrently: 120G Wavefront Mixed 29G Seahorse & Softies Running ReefAngel Plus x2 435-8
|
|
bugzme
Guest
Joined: May 22 2004
Location: West Jordan
Status: Offline
Points: 4815
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 21 2010 at 1:53pm |
|
I run 4. 1 on each end and 2 in the middle. I have a ton of flow.
Edited by bugzme - June 21 2010 at 1:53pm
|
|
Jeff
125 tank
50 gallon sump
T-5 lighting
Rum drinker, Carbon User
I KNOW ROCKS THAT ARE YOUNGER THEN ME!! I AM A Realist! I write what I think!!
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 21 2010 at 3:26pm |
|
Cool. Im going to run my drain(s) directly to my skimmer. I was thinking about running one drain to the skimmer and one into a filter sock if i could get away with it..? or would i have to run both to the skimmer to keep enough water in it for the two recirc pumps? Could i run two return pumps and be able to do the skimmer and the filter sock?
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 22 2010 at 4:23pm |
|
Does anyone else run their drains directly to their skimmer? Any advice on my plans?
|
|
bugzme
Guest
Joined: May 22 2004
Location: West Jordan
Status: Offline
Points: 4815
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 22 2010 at 4:31pm |
|
My drains tie together then run to the filter sock which is in the same compartment as my skimmer
|
|
Jeff
125 tank
50 gallon sump
T-5 lighting
Rum drinker, Carbon User
I KNOW ROCKS THAT ARE YOUNGER THEN ME!! I AM A Realist! I write what I think!!
|
|
Mark Peterson
Paid Member
Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 22 2010 at 5:17pm |
|
I agree with what Steve said about the return nozzles pointing up.
Circulation is more effective if the powerheads are positioned near the bottom and point up so the streams make the surface water roil. (that's actually a word!)
The resulting turbulance is useful for a number of reasons; gas exchange, coral feeding and coral waste transport. The strong turbulent water movement throughout the tank keeps detritus in suspension so it can go into the filter sock. This is only accomplished when the rock structure is very open and mostly off the sand.
I'm curious why you have a reservoir to hold 100 gals of RO water?
Pushing 1000 gph over the top would be sufficient and 2 nozzles would be good. Splitting that into 4 nozzles would reduce the force of the water stream coming out of each nozzle and would not be able to add to the desired turbulance.
Edited by Mark Peterson - June 22 2010 at 5:29pm
|
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 22 2010 at 5:45pm |
|
Thanks mark. the RO storage is just for convenience. i hate waiting for my filter to drip out 5 to 15 gals of water when i need it. this way i have it on hand for top offs and for water changes without having to wait for it to fill up my water jugs. and its nice to have just in case i need a large amount of RO water in case of an emergency
|
|
P.Kapp
Guest
Joined: July 16 2009
Location: Roy
Status: Offline
Points: 874
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 22 2010 at 5:47pm |
bugzme wrote:
My drains tie together then run to the filter sock which is in the same compartment as my skimmer |
This may be what i end up having to do, but right now im trying to eliminate using another pump for the skimmer if i can.
|
|
Mark Peterson
Paid Member
Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: June 22 2010 at 5:53pm |
I hope you never need 100 gals all at once. I was just thinking to add... the way I suggested water flow works so well that it requires less powerheads or less strong ones. I'm thinking that depending on the aquascaping, two Koralia 4's would give you plenty of flow with those return pumps for this 125 gal which is a longer tank. Have you considered the benefits of a suspended reef?
|
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
|
