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    Posted: May 07 2007 at 4:22pm
Hey does anyone know of a local place where I could pick up some feeder ghost shrimp?  I want to get something that survives more than a day or 2 in the saltwater for my frogfish.

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I know Bird World has brine shrimp!
 
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I just went though this. Fish-4-you has freshwater ghost shrimp for 7@$1. They said if you acclimate them for an hour or so, you could get a week out of them. I'm thinking you best bet for a frogfish would be to get some mollies. A little more expensive, but you'd have a better chance at getting them to live for a while. Also, if they DO die, you can find them and remove them from the tank.
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Good thinking Ed, I think I'll go pick up a mollie or two tomorrow.  I had some guppies in there, but the currents in the tank are too strong for them so they just get pushed around until they die...  I'll have to try mollies.
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I'm not sure how long you need to acclimate them, but I've seen them a couple times living happily in LFS salt systems.
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  This really smart guy told me once, (relating to seahorses but I think it relates to all fish?)  "SW fish need SW food, FW fish need FW food". I guess there is something different with the fatty acids, those wondrous omega 3 Hufas and Pufas? Fish have evolved to process these chains differently and if we feed our our fish a food it can't process, they get fatty livers and don't live as long in captivity. That's how I understood him, anyway.

 There are quite a few research articles about lionfish eating goldfish, and the necrocropsies (sp, sorry?) that are done when they expire. I'll bet it is similar with frogfish?

  When I was trying to teach WC seahorses to eat frozen food, I used ghost shrimp from Kris, by the case! I kept them in their regular salinity, then gut loaded them with cyclopeeze before I fed them out. The shrimp itself isn't very nutritious, but the food inside is consumed with it. But, my fish were really hungry, so they didn't let the shrimp stay in their home long. Salinity was not an issue!

 You can keep the shrimp alive for quite a while using a tiny 2 gallon tank and a sponge filter. I even had quite a few spawn. Kris will let you pick the gravid ones. If you want to try to grow them, I know a cool trick. Let me know?
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Wait! Mollies are brackish! Where do they fit in in the SW vs FW food debate? I still would use ghost shrimp 'cause it is so easy to see if they are gut loaded!

 Plus, they are very cheap!
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I was wondering that myself Suzy. Same with scats, archers, monos, etc.

I know scats are much closer to a marine fish than a freshwater. They do great in full salt.
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 Would they breed fast enough to feed a hungry frogfish? I've never had one....
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Hmmm Well I'll have too look into getting some Ghost Shrimp and gut load them, but for today I think I'm going to pick a molly up on my way home from work and see what happens.  I really just want to see my Frogfish eat something, I've heard all these stories about what aggressive feeders they are, but as of this morning mine is still fasting...
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How long since he ate?
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Since the tide pool he was collected from in Thailand...

Okay, honestly I don't know... The guys at Aquatica said they had been eating in the store, and there is a chance he ate one of the feeder guppies (I found 4 of them dead and removed them, but haven't found the fifth one) so he may have ate the fifth one, but I can't be sure. 

I was reading online somewhere that they can go for a few weeks without food so maybe I'm just an over concerned fish parent (me and Marlin)


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Originally posted by superman1981 superman1981 wrote:

. . .so maybe I'm just an over concerned fish parent (me and Marlin)
 
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Mike, I'm happy to see some one got my Finding Nemo joke Big%20smile
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