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    Posted: October 16 2007 at 4:17pm
where is everyone getting their acrylic to build tanks with from?

I want to build a small tank (24" l x 14" d x 18" t) for my desk at work.

I called regional, and they say that I have to use cell cast acrylic to build an aquarium (even that small of dimensions).  I was planning on using 3/16" thick for it.  However for either type the cost is well over $100 ($200 for the cell cast) so I'd rather buy a glass aquarium than pay that much for plastic.

Does anyone know anywhere I can find cheaper acrylic?
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Acrylic is expensive.
 
Your dimensions are nearly the same as a 20 gallon tall (24X12.5X17) I would look for a good used glass tank.
 
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Check with Delvies Plastics 801-467-1540, GE Polymershapes 801-266-9899, and Laird Plastics 801-485-6770. From my experience Laird Plastics has the best prices.
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Welcome rdbrown!
 
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I've looked up the different sizes, but I was hoping to get that little bit of extra depth in a small tank.  I might just end up buying a glass tank and drilling it to run a sump under.
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my problem with acrylic is that it can get scrached easily even by simple everyday cleaning or aquascaping.  Tileman's is the only one I've seen that has stayed looking as good as glass.  For a tank that small I would go with glass for sure. 
BTW Marine Aquatics can get just about any kind of tank... from what I've heard.
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You could always have a custom rimless tank made by glasscages.com
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Marine Aquatics makes custom acrylic tanks.
 
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My new 90 is acrylic. So far I'm not a big fan.
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I've actually decided to stay away from acrylic for the moment--to expensive for what I'm after.  
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So, I'm still entertaining the acrylic idea--but I have a few questions.

If I want to build a tank that is 30-36" long, 14-18" front to back and a max of 18" tall:

Does it have to be cell cast?

How thick would be recommended?

I plan on putting a top on it that has routered openings--would I need to provide any additional bracing to prevent bowing?  Or just maintain at least 2-3" around the top?

The reason I'm still entertaining this is I want to do a custom overflow using the whole back panel as the overflow ledge, and I want a lot of front to back depth for aquascaping (plus I can glue acrylic supports in for things) and I'll probably pay $50+ for a similar tank in glass...  plus drilling etc.
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Yes, HAS to be cell cast.  You could use 3/8" thick.  I will see if I can post a few links to calculators.
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3/8" will work fine, and yes it has to be cell cast acrylic. It will probably cost you more to do the acrylic, as most plastic dealers sell only full sheets. A 3/8" 4' x 8' sheet is going for about $163.35.

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The cheapest I found on 3/8" cell cast was around $5.30/sq ft. at GE plastics.  Needless to say I bought a glass tank. Wink

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The savings in acrylic only comes in when you are building a large aquarium. The other advantage is weight. Another advantage is acrylic insulates. I myself will never buy a large glass aquarium again, just for the weight factor.
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Originally posted by rdbrown rdbrown wrote:

3/8" will work fine, and yes it has to be cell cast acrylic. It will probably cost you more to do the acrylic, as most plastic dealers sell only full sheets. A 3/8" 4' x 8' sheet is going for about $163.35.
 
 
That is a whole lot of money!Ouch
 
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You can also try Delvies Plastics.  They will sell partial sheets.  Their acrylic is imported.  Evidently there is a quality difference.  I am just finishing up a 21" cube of 3/8" using their products for the sump and tank.  I will use a different brand for the 180 I have planned.  That said, the tank I built turned out fine other than some small bubbles in some of the seams.  The experts over on RC thought there is a good chance the bubbles are because of the acrylic. The 1/4" on the sump bonded perfectly.


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You need to create an account to use the calculator.
 
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Here is a better choice for a calculator, should have remembered this one before.
 
 
It is under DIY Pages, then tank building.  I think this one is more realistic. 
 
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