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    Posted: December 16 2012 at 12:32pm
So my tank is a 29g coralife biocube.  It was a birthday gift and was not sure when I got it if I would even like it.  Sooo I love it!  reading and learning as I go.  Everything was going so well.  Growing like weeds!  Happy tank.  I thought I was the newbee that caught on quick with little problems.  WAAAHHH!!!  My pride was my downfall!!! Ermm My tank was running a little warm when first set up because of all the natural light.  But I got that fixed.  BUT as soon as winter hit and there was no more natural light everything started to shrink and disappear!  NOOOO!!!! Cry  ok I have a very happy harry mushroom.  So I have learned that this "all in one"  can grow much.  I have to either get a new set up or fix up my lighting.  I am going to have to wait till after christmas.   I was wondering why people are selling these used at the 6 month mark.  haha!  I am addicted and have a lot more lessons to learn.  



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Don't give up! Yes, smaller tanks that try to fit everything into a compact space give up some functionality of larger, less-tidy tanks. However, it is possible to have a long-term success tank with your 29g. It'll take a bit of work, but it's possible.

I live in South Weber (only a couple miles from Roy), and I'd be happy to come over to help you, or to have you visit my setup. :)
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I agree w/ ReefdUp 100%
 
These are not 'bad' tanks; many people who sell these only do so because they want to upgrade to a larger tank - not because the BioCube is a bad tank.
 
How about some more back round on your problems - then maybe we can help!
 
List all your water parameters (temp, SG, pH, alk, Ca, Mg, nH3, nO2, nO3, pO4)
 
If you don't know what a particular parameter reads, just say "I don't know"
 
Then how about a picture of the tank and a list of your livestock?
 
If you can do that for us, we can probably help you out. Otherwise, we are just guessing.
 
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reefup - sounds good I will have to plan on having you over.

I will get some pics posted in a bit for sure.  I am not going to give up.  At least the fish are happy. :) my sw test does not test all that you have listed but I will test all I can and post.  Thanks for the help.

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I bet your alk is low if you have never tested for it. Which would cause big problems in your tank.
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pics :)

my disappearing corals 

this is how I feel!! :)
ok maybe not quiet that sad

fish
6 line wrassy
2 clown fish hosting an anemone
1 Goby
1 blue chromis
a few hermit crabs and snails
1 cleaner shrimp

corals
Hairy mushroom
red mushrooms
war coral - gone
toad stool - will not open
pulsating xenia - gone
Misc polyps - gone or nearly gone.

Current test
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 0

Should I be testing for more?   


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ohhh temp 81


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Bobc63 is right.
You have to know Alkanity, calcium, temp, and salinity. I think you'll find one of these out. Just my guess but I think  Dionysus will be right...Alkanity.
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Originally posted by ajsahm ajsahm wrote:

ohhh temp 81



Temp is high
Try, try, try, then give up!
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Hey...at least you're not posting a picture of tons of hair algae!!

Based on the amount of coralline algae you have, you're likely sucking up a ton of alkalinity/calcium. But, shrinking isn't usually a sign of alkalinity deficiency. It can be linked to temperature...and 81 is getting up there (especially when some of the cheap hobby thermometers can be off by 2 deg.) I'd bring the tank slowly down to 76-78 degrees. Was the tank new when you got it? If not, do you know how old the bulbs are?
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The tank is new and the bulbs run warm.  They are almost 6 months old.  I cannot seem to get it lower.  right now house temp it set at 68deg.  I have 4 fans set up in the back two running down and the other two up so I do not get too much evap.  So I have been leaning toward and LED build.  Looks like for temp reasons I need to as well as to save money on bulb replacements.  I am clearly not testing for enough so that is a must buy on monday.  

Reefdup - can i have too much coralline? I am shocked how fast it grew. I started with one rock with a little of it on it to the whole tank.  Your blog is great!  I have been reading through it this evening.  

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I didn't read all of this but....temp of 81 is totally fi. ne. Do one massive water change and your parameters are fixed. I would think about lighting issues, and you can't have too much coralline.

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Ive found with my Biocube that even with the fans on if you leave the front flapper door open it lets the heat escape alot better.

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I will put the extra fans back in that I took out thinking I would not need them for the winter.  

How many watts do I need for my tank?

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My xenia melt when my salinity is off, I didn't see a salinity test in here, second for me is alk.  Yeah temp isn't too bad, for super picky acros etc yes but for what you have - not at all.
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I second the Salinity do you have an ATO? how are you topping off the evap?  
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i top off by hand.  i guess need a good sw tester.

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