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Molli
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Topic: Size of Return Pump Posted: October 30 2012 at 3:24pm |
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I've read a few articles about reef tanks that suggest that the "ideal" size for a return pump should be a pump that pumps 5 times the total number of gallons in your tank and sump, and that you should rely on circulation pumps for the water flow in your tank, not on return pumps. I'm going to be in the market to replace my return pump eventually and wanted to know if anyone here follows that advice? I have an MP40 for flow, so not really looking to boost my flow via a return pump.
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Posted: October 30 2012 at 4:09pm |
I try to match my return pump to about 10X the tank size
I have a mag 9.5 on my 93 Cube
But I have seen great tanks with small return pumps and alot of gph through circ pumps, and I have seen great tanks with huge return pumps and little to no gph from circ pumps...
I think it will work wither way - but, generally, if you go with a smaller return and a few circ pumps you will use less electricity than if you go with a large return pump.
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Posted: October 30 2012 at 6:28pm |
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I use to do the 10xs rule until I read a article about it. If you think about it all your pump is for is to move water. It doesnt do any good to pump i high volume of water through your sump all the time. your skimmer can only handle so much water and your refuge can only export waste so fast. So why would you want to pay twice as much for electricity and the cost of the pump to do the same job a pump half the size would handle. Use your mp40 for movement but find a pump that will move 5xs your total tank volume and youll be fine!
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Posted: October 30 2012 at 7:09pm |
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Frame,I just read a section in Julian Sprung's book where he talks about determining the size of return pumps and he gives the same advice as you do. In fact, he claims that you can go as low as 1 to 3 X per hour -- as long as you have flow from the powerheads for movement. I didn't get that he recommends going that low, but indicates it can be done.
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Posted: October 30 2012 at 9:47pm |
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I have a 65 and wil be using either a 650 or a 750 for the return....it as to move up liken 4ft to e enter the tank...I'll have 2 koralia 3 for circulation....would that be enough?
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Posted: November 13 2012 at 10:00pm |
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Viper..are you talking gph with the 650 to 750? How big is your sump? Refuge?
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Posted: November 14 2012 at 2:59pm |
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Viper, a Mag 7 at zero head is 700 GPH, at 4 feet it's 480; the mag 9.5 is 800 at 4 feet. Both will be even less when you factor in friction loss across the lateral piping and any connections. If you have a 65 and a 20 gallon sump minus what you have for rock and equipment you will do ok at 750 gph, that's about 10x per hour.
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