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rfoote 
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Posted: August 07 2011 at 11:25pm |
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Just wondering others that use Kalk/Vinegar for top off what amounts you are adding per gallon of water? Thanks!
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 12:32pm |
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 12:41pm |
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I use kalk but not vinegar... what does the vinegar do?
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 2:13pm |
Get ahold of Asad ( seti007)
He is dosing kalk and vinegar
I am not sure of the specfics, but his tank looks fantastic!
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 6:52pm |
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vinegar can be dosed as a liquid carbon source, much the same as vodka. Just a note here carbon dosing is not something to take lightly it has to be very closely monitored and dosing has to be done correctly and religiously or you can crash your tank.
Edited by CapnMorgan - August 08 2011 at 7:06pm
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 7:00pm |
 CapnMorgan wrote:
vinegar can be dosed as a liquid carbon source, much the same as vodka. Just a not here carbon dosing is not something to take lightly it has to be very closely monitored and dosing has to be done correctly and religiously or you can crash your tank. |
Thanks. I know this and have dosed off/on for a long time, Just wondering those that do as well, what amounts they are dosing?
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 7:07pm |
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I would recommend heading over to Reef Central and searching vinegar dosing. I remember reading a few threads over there that discussed dosages for vinegar, sugar, etc.
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 8:55pm |
A tablespoon teaspoon or two. I would definitely go see Asad and pick up a few tips. He's one of the best reef aquarists I know. I always got those measurements mixed up.  My wife does all the cooking.  My thanks to Badfinger for the clarification below.
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 9:46pm |
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Thanks for the info. I've got good info. from Asad as well.
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Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:28pm |
If you wouldn't mind posting his recommendations here, (for me and posterity ) I'm also curious. I'm working on setting up a CA reactor but dose a bit of Kalk and Vinegar in the meantime and use 1 TBS per gallon but would love to know if there is a better number. Thanks!
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Posted: August 09 2011 at 7:27am |
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Mike, just clarifying.... its 1 TSP per gallon, not 1 TBS..... fully saturated mix is 2 tsp per gallon
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Posted: August 09 2011 at 7:56pm |
Good to know - I've been using 1 TBS! Swear I read TBS somewhere, but probably mixed up the 2... Thanks for the clarification!
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 2:27pm |
Thanks for the kind words Mark. We should get together before you leave for Hawaii:)
I've had tremendous sucess with dosing vinegar and would recommend it to anyone. Before dosing, I used to have to take out large amounts of macro algae every few weeks but now, I haven't ahd the need to do so in months. I also don't have any nuisance algae at all. Dosing vinegar just like other sources of carbon like Vodka will result in a very nutrient deprived system as long as you have a good skimmer to pull out the bacteria bloom. My Acros are doing really well and have great polyp extension and color. The softies and LPS are doing ok but not as well as the SPS. The dosages he recommends are as follows. Like everything else, start slow and up the dosage as you go along. "three level teaspoons of solid lime per gallon of limewater, and 45 ml of vinegar per gallon of limewater. "
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 8:17pm |
seti007 wrote:
"three level teaspoons of solid lime per gallon of limewater, and 45 ml of vinegar per gallon of limewater. " |
So if I'm reading and converting correctly 45ml = 3.04 TBS, so it's 1TBS of Kalk and 3TBS of Vinegar to achieve a fully saturated carbon/limewater mix based on my calculations. I really prefer the metric system, it's so linear without the need for conversions, stupid Imperial system and its fractions and unique measurements! 3 teaspoons per Tablespoon right?
It is my 3rd straight 14hr work day in a row, but I'm not crazy after all! In fact it sounds like I could stand to up my vinegar dose, once I ramp up to it regularly... |
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