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kmtfishchannel 
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Posted: June 12 2017 at 12:02pm |
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Does anyone in the Utah County Area (Payson though American Fork Area) have a Red Sea Reefer XL 525 tank that is up and running and are willing to let me and maybe a freind come take a look at it? I'm wanting this someday to be my next build I would love to see how you have it set up and running. Thanks!
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Mark Peterson
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Posted: June 14 2017 at 2:09pm |
Several days and no replies.  Okay, here's my 2 cents: IMO, after all is said and done, it's nothing to do with equipment. What really makes the difference is how well the tank is set up and cared for by the hobbyist . This is not an easy hobby. To be successful, a hobbyist needs to learn about the biology of the animals and algae and the chemistry of the water. With this knowledge in hand, the hobbyist can provide for the tanks needs so all the organisms, from bacteria to bugs and from coral to fish, can grow and flourish.
There are many companies that have gotten on the bandwagon to produce All-In-One tanks. They are pretty looking and may seem to be simple and trouble-free, but that is clear marketing hyperbole. They require pretty much the same amount of work/maintenance as an ordinary box of water, the traditional aquarium. Additionally, the multiple internal powerheads running in the back sections add excessive heat to the water. I recently tried to talk a friend out of a Red Sea tank. He could not resist the marketing hype and bought a used one anyway. Set up seemed simple but within a week he saw that the tank was overheated. He had to hook up the Chiller that the previous owner had added to cool the water. Chillers require open space, add great expense and reduce flow, all negatives.
I have set up dozens of sumpless reef tanks using traditional stand-alone glass aquariums as well as AOI tanks. I have also set up and maintained hundreds of aquariums with Sump/Refugiums. Consider the economy and advantages of the traditional tank of any size, large or small, that uses a sump/Refugium. Tanks that are drilled with overflows or the simple boxes of water with add-on external overflows both offer multiple advantages over the AIO tanks. A few of those advantages are: - increased control, - easier long term maintenance, - less need for external cooling and best of all, - better growth. These four general advantages include multiples of sub-advantages that can be described and discussed here if anyone cares to. 
Of course this is my opinion. I have done no scientific studies but, since my first reef aquarium in 1993 and founding this club in 1995, I have pretty much seen them all.
Aloha, Mark  808-345-1049
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Posted: June 14 2017 at 4:34pm |
BTW, my friend and I have made that Red Sea tank work for him, so please don't get the idea that I'm saying the tank you are thinking about is no good.
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Posted: June 14 2017 at 4:39pm |
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The new Red Sea tanks are fantastic. I would not hesitate to purchase one. I am setting up an S-series tank for a client in Orem on Friday. Pm me and we can discuss if you would like to check this tank out once its setup. There are quite a few similarities between the reefer series and new S-Series tanks.
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Marcoss
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Posted: June 14 2017 at 4:50pm |
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I have a Max S400 and love it. Granted it's not what you are after but I highly endorse this brand. It's by far my favorite tank. :)
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RedSea Max S400 - 90G Rimless Frag Tanks x2 - 185 Lookdown Bin
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Posted: June 15 2017 at 2:17pm |
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So I have been advised that these new large Red Sea tanks employ sump/Refugiums and don't have the problems of the older tanks. That's good.
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