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jwoo
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Topic: Projects for 2010 Posted: January 02 2010 at 11:48pm |
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I was talking to my brother about doing some projects for 2010. One that really stands out to me is building my own frag tank and plumbing it into my main system. This would be a build from the ground up.
I had a few questions though that I thought this board might be equipped to answer.
1. Should I build it from glass or acrylic? I hate the acrylic on my main tank however would it be easier for a frag tank (also this would not be on display so I'm not to concerned about the inevitable scratches)? What is cheaper glass or acrylic? What is easier to work with? If you were building one from the ground up what would you use?
2. Return Pump - I want to plumb it into my main 45 gallon tank. I'm looking at doing a 30 gallon shallow frag tank and having it in the room directly on the other side of the wall from my display. This room is the furnace/storage room where I have my RO unit and other fish related equipment. I'd run the overflow through the wall to the sump. I currently have a Mag 7 as a return. I was thinking of getting a larger return pump and tee-ing it off to act as a return to both systems. Will this work? Or should I get another mag 7 and just have two? I'm afraid of the noise levels if I do that.
3. Sump - The other option is redoing my sump completely and selling the current one. This would allow me to put the sump in the storage room and make it much larger. Right now it's only a 20 gallon sump and I really dislike the setup.
Of course there always is the option of not plumbing them together at all. However I like the thought of having one system to maintain rather then yet ANOTHER tank in my house (I think three is the limit for me).
Thanks!
Oh and here is my projects list for 2010:
1. Change my pico to a frogfish heaven. 2. Build ATO system from my 55 gallon reservoir. 3. Build frag tank!
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Posted: January 03 2010 at 7:29am |
First off, I wouldnt listen to a word your brother says cuz he so crazy! Second, if I were going to build my own frag tank (depending on the size) I would probably do glass. For the same reason you do not like the acrylic in your display is the same reason I dont like it in my frag tank. I think glass is easier to clean because you can just pull out a razor and scrap of the junk. Also it seems once acrylic gets covered with coralline algae and you clean it, it etches the tank and just grows back quicker the next time. Plus, if you have seen the tanks Chad has built then you would probably want glass anyway. Third, if you like the submersuble pumps then you should just get a mag 9 or 12 and use it to supply both tanks. There really shouldnt be a reason that you would need to use two individual pumps as the returns. In my "house" system I run everything off of 1 pump. If you have the room to make a larger sump then do it, the more water volume the better. Once again, in my system everything uses the same water for the 120g (soon to be 150g  ) display,and the 75g frag tank. they are on different levels of the home and about 25ft apart. So I see no reason on why you cant do something like this as well. Your more than welcome to head out to the land of the BANNED and check it out yourself.
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 7:04pm |
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chk4tix - What kind of pump are you using? I want to move my refugium to the basement and turn one side into a mini frag tank but am not sure what size pump I should get to move the water the 15 feet it needs to travel.
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 7:30pm |
If I was building a frag tank from the ground up I would probably use acrylic, but only because I have all the tools necessary to build with acrylic and I don't really care if the frag tank has algae or Coraline on it. You can drill holes and cut acrylic to size with common tools and if you make a mistake (as long as it's not to short) just cut it again. I do have to admit that Chads glass tanks look awesome though.
If you are going to have to have someone else cut your panels for you anyway I would go with glass for the reasons Jeff mentions It really is easier to clean glass than acrylic.
I would go with one pump for both tanks with a couple ball valves to control flow to each. Just make sure you have other sources of flow (power-heads for example) in the tanks so that if the one pump fails you still have circulation.
Good Luck
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 7:36pm |
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It looks like one pump would be the way to go.
I'm probably not going to cut the pieces myself so I'm leaning towards glass.
Thanks for the input!
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 7:41pm |
Oh, one more thing.
Make sure your sump can handle all the return water when the power fails. a 20 Gal sump may not be big enough for both a 45 Gallon Display and a 30 Gallon Frag Tank. You don't want a flood when the power fails.
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 7:42pm |
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I am use acrylic for my frag and stock tanks, but mostly for the sake of being easy to work with, and easy to build to suite my needs. I plan on adding a warty frogfish to my frag tank soon, just for fun.
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 8:03pm |
leafeater wrote:
chk4tix - What kind of pump are you using? I want to move my refugium to the basement and turn one side into a mini frag tank but am not sure what size pump I should get to move the water the 15 feet it needs to travel. |
The pump I am currently using is an Iwaki 70rlt, its a great pump so far.
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 8:17pm |
bfessler wrote:
Oh, one more thing.
Make sure your sump can handle all the return water when the power fails. a 20 Gal sump may not be big enough for both a 45 Gallon Display and a 30 Gallon Frag Tank. You don't want a flood when the power fails. |
My returns are only an inch below the water line on my display - I'd do this on the frag as well so that it could handle it. The sump will actually handle about 30 gallons I just only ever fill it to the 20 gallon mark for this very reason. I figure if the power would go out I'd only be looking at five gallons in the sump from both tanks.
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