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    Posted: June 11 2013 at 1:05am
I picked a couple of frags from the store and the plug had a little bit if hair algae on it. I tired to scrap it, pull it with tweezers, put it on a different plug, but I can't seem to get it off of the plug ( it's been 3 weeks.). I don't have it anywhere else in my tank. Is tgere a good way to treat just 1 frag for hair algae to get rid of it?
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If it isn't sps, you can do a 10:1 tank water to hydrogen peroxide dip for 20 seconds. Remove earlier if you see signs of distress...
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You can always use a toothbrush to get it off
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Aloha,

If I understand correctly, the frag has been in your tank for 3 weeks and the hair algae keeps coming back after cleaning, rightQuestion

How many snails and hermits are in this tankQuestion It's possible that there aren't enough of those little but highly useful critters in the tank. Although, even with a good cleanup crew, sometimes a patch of nuisance algae goes untouched because of it's location. It may help to move the frag temporarily to a place where they can find it, like at the edge of the sand next to the glass.

Another suggestion is to place a hermit in a container of tank water. Leave it alone for a day or two with no food, then place the frag in the container. That little hungry hermit might just clean up the last little nubbin of hair algae so that it never comes back. If the container is placed on the sand in the tank, weight it down with a clean pebble or use a glass jar. If it is outside the tank, it does not need a heater. Everything can live just fine at room temperature, even down to 65 or up to 80 won't hurt it.

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Yes, it keeps coming back. I've had it up on a frag rack because I didn't want it to grow onto anything. The tank is 6 gal and I have 5 hermits and 7 or 8 snail.
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Hermit crabs and other natural alga-eaters will just spread the spores around. If you want to get rid of it permanently, the hydrogen peroxide mix dip will kill the spores. It may also be a species that hermit crabs find distasteful.
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Originally posted by ReefdUp ReefdUp wrote:

t may also be a species that hermit crabs find distasteful.

They eat fish crap...is that even possible? Wink
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Originally posted by JohnnyHeavens JohnnyHeavens wrote:


Originally posted by ReefdUp ReefdUp wrote:

t may also be a species that hermit crabs find distasteful.


They eat fish crap...is that even possible? Wink


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When I get frags, I look for the ones with some hair algae.  My sailfin tang loves it.  My tank stays algae free.  If you have space get a tang, best algae control money can buy.  My preference is the sailfin.  Relatively disease resistant and awesome looking. 
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^^^ Agreed. The foxface is on the same list. It will eat cyano

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Aloha,

Algae is growing everywhere. Spores don't need help to spread around. They do it very well on their own. Algae is the basis of the food chain. It's essential to life. You can't have a decent reef aquarium without algae and the animals to eat it. The key to keeping the aquarium looking good and not overgrown with algae is to have enough algae eaters. All algae eaters are helpful. Each has their own favorite algae but will eat most of what is growing.

The list of herbivores is long:
Snails;
Fish;
Amphipods;
Hermit Crabs;
Urchins;
Bristleworms;
Sea Slugs;
Copepods;
Feather Duster Worms;
Clams;
Emerald Crabs and more.

Each herbivore has its part to play in keeping our aquariums from having an algae bloom.

Keeping a variety of snails is very useful because each type does a slightly different job. Margarita Snails are fast eaters and can mow a large area quickly while Astrea Snails crop it much closer/shorter. Then there are Cerith Snails that move through the sand eating algae on the sand particles, sometimes crawling up the rocks and glass clearing a narrow path as they go.

Keeping coral on a rack makes it difficult for some herbivores to reach. Placing frags on the sand makes it more accessible to Copepods, Amphipods, Snails, Hermits and Bristleworms, to name a few.

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Originally posted by Mark Peterson Mark Peterson wrote:

You can't have a decent reef aquarium without algae and the animals to eat it.


Glad to know I don't have a decent reef. Beauty was in the eye of the beholder. Algae spores may be everywhere, but they can be limited. A year later, I still have no evidence of Bryopsis, Valonia, other pest algae thanks to my quarantine/treatment system. And, I know I don't have anything that would normally consume it.

The OP asked for a way to get rid of the algae on the plug. I gave him a suggestion. If he chooses to go a different route, then that's his decision. For all we know, it may be Bryopsis or another pest hair algae that most critters we have available in the hobby won't eat.
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I like Nikkie's suggestion.  I've done it in the past and it is amazing how effective it is.  However I didn't do a dip like suggested.  I put it in a syringe, pulled the plug out of the tank, and was very careful to not spray directly on the SPS.  The infected spot bubbled and never had a problem on it again.  Infact I will spot treat directly in the tank using that method, but not meant for this thread....
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Aloha,

I've never had to do it, but Nikki's suggestion is very good.
I know that it may seem kind of crazy, but I've always had great success growwing coral frags on the substrate rather than on racks. This way the Snails and Hermits easily found and cleaned them.The thing I especially liked was when I stirred the sand and also during the night, live coral food came out of the sand. Smile


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Originally posted by Lewy Lewy wrote:



I like Nikkie's suggestion.  I've done it in the past and it is amazing how effective it is.  However I didn't do a dip like suggested.  I put it in a syringe, pulled the plug out of the tank, and was very careful to not spray directly on the SPS.  The infected spot bubbled and never had a problem on it again.  Infact I will spot treat directly in the tank using that method, but not meant for this thread....


I've definitely spot-sprayed...works great. If it's on a plug, I just remove the plug and put a clean one on (and bleach the old one.)

Also, I am still not a fan of dosing hydrogen peroxide directly into the tank. Yes, it works, but I've read a few studies that show that it inhibits calcification before it is neutralized. I care about growth more than a bit of algae.
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Well, algae has been treated. I dipped the plugs in hydrogen for 30 secs, then scrubbed them clean with a toothbrush, and added a few more snails for good measure!! We'll see if it comes back now jack!
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