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    Posted: July 19 2012 at 5:08pm
All right, so in my sandbed there is one part of it that is a bit uneven, and i usualy all ways see it because that is where sometimes food lands due to the uneven level, and so i usualy look there to see if there is some i can take out so i dont pollute the tank, but today i went to see the fish and i noticed there was like a black string thing in the sand against the glass at the bottom then i noticed it getting longer to the top of my sand bed, then i noticed there were two.............. There arent any more than two that i can see, but (and no i usualy dont do this) but i tapped the glass where it is, and they retracted in about 3 seconds. They didnt come back out for a couple minutes. What are they? I tried to get a decent picture, but couldnt since they were to thin to see, but below is an image off of paint that resembles it..
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Medusa worm?
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"The early bird might get the worm, but only the second mouse gets the cheese."
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Um i dont think its a madusa worm. I looked them up and watched videos of them but i doubt this is the culprit... this thing is super super thin and long and black. After further inspection, closer to the end that is poking out of the sandbed starts fading and goes straight to lighter orange....

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I'll go worms.  Peanut worms is a general name for them I think?  Very beneficial.

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No, it may be them but i dont think it might be a peanut worm...... i just looked those up, and they dont look like what i found in the sand. Unless the can look like a long exteremely thin black string with a lighter color at the end....
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I did a Google search and came up with this maybe it will help

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Not to go off subject but how do you tell the difference between bristle worms and fireworms?
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Crap - I meant spaghetti worms...not medusa. That's what I get for reading the forums during class.

Brett - fireworms are EXTREMELY rare in aquaria...I mean...extremely. 99.999999999999% are just various bristleworms. If you see a fireworm in nature...you'll know the difference immediately. They can eat just about anything (including SPS), and look like they can too.
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Here ya go...interesting read on fireworms: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/5/short

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Originally posted by ReefdUp ReefdUp wrote:

Crap - I meant spaghetti worms...not medusa. That's what I get for reading the forums during class.

Brett - fireworms are EXTREMELY rare in aquaria...I mean...extremely. 99.999999999999% are just various bristleworms. If you see a fireworm in nature...you'll know the difference immediately. They can eat just about anything (including SPS), and look like they can too.
     

Haha k I will look into spaghetti worms.... But I think the ones are called some thing like spoon worms....... Haha and fire worms ARE EXTREMELY rare:P
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Originally posted by tfmreefs tfmreefs wrote:

Originally posted by ReefdUp ReefdUp wrote:

Crap - I meant spaghetti worms...not medusa. That's what I get for reading the forums during class.

Brett - fireworms are EXTREMELY rare in aquaria...I mean...extremely. 99.999999999999% are just various bristleworms. If you see a fireworm in nature...you'll know the difference immediately. They can eat just about anything (including SPS), and look like they can too.
     

Haha k I will look into spaghetti worms.... But I think the ones are called some thing like spoon worms....... Haha and fire worms ARE EXTREMELY rare:P



Yea I read that, but dont mean there aint a chance.
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Originally posted by ReefdUp ReefdUp wrote:

Crap - I meant spaghetti worms...not medusa. That's what I get for reading the forums during class.

Brett - fireworms are EXTREMELY rare in aquaria...I mean...extremely. 99.999999999999% are just various bristleworms. If you see a fireworm in nature...you'll know the difference immediately. They can eat just about anything (including SPS), and look like they can too.



lol k just making sure cuz my rsm has so freakin many worms it is like I am breeding them. even lil baby ones everywhere. I do a water change once a week and must pull out at least 10-15 and never seems like there is a drop lol. I know they are benificial but dang
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No, there's a chance...never said there wasn't. Eunicid worms fall generally into the "fireworm" category, but considering how often they are found, they're rare. When you compare the few cases posted each year of "fireworms" to the number of newbies posting pictures of their bristleworms...and how many bristleworms we have in our aquariums, then they are very rare.
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Yea I couldnt find a good enough pic all the ones i looked at they looked real close but that link you posted that I am reading now you can tell more difference. Thnx

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Yeah, I can't find anything that shows the physical differences between the two in some sort of diagram, but you'll just know one when you see it. I've seen them out during the day on the reefs prowling, and sheesh...I was terrified I'd screw up my bouyancy and land on one. The "fireworms" are generally more furry looking, but I've seen some pretty furry bristleworms. Best I've got. :-/

Oh, and if you watch them, fireworms seem to be more intelligent. They seem to have a goal for what they're doing, and they don't seem to be shy about being out. Bristleworms just act more like worms to me...and seem pretty skittish comparitively.

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And yes there is so a chance!
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All right not even a minute ago i went to see if i could see the worm and i did. It was totaly exposed against the glass but still in the sand. This is pretty close to what it looks like. ANy idea? Its all attached so i am pretty sure its all just one worm..
 
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Still going with spaghetti worm....beyond that, you might not get more of an ID without someone physically seeing it. There are tons and tons and tons of random critters we get in our aquariums that aren't competely documented/identified.

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+1 Spagetti worm.  I have them in my tank.
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