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I haven't seen the saw. I am planning on using my current dremel with a diamond cutting wheel and diamond drills with my drill to make all cuts.
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Mark can you chime in on how safe you think it would be to go rimless on a 40B and also cut a 1 1/2" deep trough along the full length of the back pane of glass for an overflow? Do you think that will effect the strength of the back pane of glass too much?

What about when I attach the external box to the tank? Should I do it before I paint the back (so that the seam can be seen from the front side view) or after I paint the tank (seam is hidden but now the box is glued to paint and not the tank glass). Would glueing the box to the paint pose any risks of leaking? Anybody ever tried it?

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Aloha,

I may be the crazy guy who removed the top frame from one (and now another) 40 gal breeder tank, but IMO, I'm not so crazy when I say that cutting/drilling the thin glass on small tanks is too risky.

Regarding the coast to coast overflow, it has always seemed to me that it's too much for too little. The extension that requires a long length of silicone onto the back glass also increases the points of possible leaks later on. (A silicone seal on a painted glass surface is sure to fail.)

About full length vertical overflows, I have to say that they are a waste of tank space.

Some years ago, I concluded that overflow teeth get in the way. For some reason teeth have been made wider than the gap between them where the water is supposed to flow.Confused
A flat spillway overflow requires less space and a lower water level at the spillway to achieve the same gph overflow. In place of the teeth, Bridal Veil Netting works awesome. Smile

It's interesting to read all the different methods for getting water out of a tank. Maybe I missed it but what about the "return"? How is water to be returned to the tank?

Is the reason for the overflow skimming action to keep a scum from forming on the surface? If so, there are other options, some simpler than cutting into the glass and creating increased risk of cracked glass/ruined tank.

Is the point of these overflows to keep ugly plumbing and wasted space to a minimum, If so, there are other options to consider. There is also a method of moving water within the tank which helps minimize scum.

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Ok, so no rimless if drilled recommendation from Mark.

The return isn't too critical. I can drill and put it up through the bottom, drill the back glass and put it through or just do an over the back. Not really the focus because if I can't get the water out effectively then there is no reason to worry about how to return it.

The thoughts I have about the coast to coast is two fold. The first is actually trying to make this setup as silent as possible, the second is surface skimming and the third is saving as much space in the display as possible. I already run powerheads pointed at the surface and my returns move the surface as well. I won't run a siphon overflow on my tanks. So if there are other options beyond those lets see them posted and I'll add them to the choice list.

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Looking forward to seeing the final product. Smile
 
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