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    Posted: May 09 2012 at 7:12pm
I, as A LOT of people don't have a great abundance of money to buy everything they want or need, but don't get that mistaken that im asking for freebies. im not asking for anything but ideas... I have a 10g tank and will get acrylic sheets soon. just as soon as I get a good idea of what I want to do. I have a protein skimmer thats hanging on the back that i can use in my refugium.

any help and advice would be awesome..
 
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If you have the tank, go to regional supply and get some of their scrap pieces, they sell it by the pound and dirt cheap for small pieces. In fact a few times they have given me free pieces. But for like a 1'x1' piece, I believe is like 2-3 bucks.

But ya then you can move your heaters, and skimmer down to your sump
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Do I need my carbon filter?
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You can do baffles like you prefer...  Just look online and pick what you like.  :)  I used three baffles.  One for the input, one for the fuge(the largest area), and a third for the return.  The hard part is getting the acrylic panels to hold to the glass tank.  I decided to use a small piece of plexi with a indent, the thickness of the plexi taken out, at the top of each baffle. These I glued in place with Goop. Along the bottom I ran a brace the length of the tank, sandwiching all the baffles in. I siliconed these in place. I let the first coat of silicone dry over night and then added a second coat of silicone the next day. I am now in the process of letting the whole thing cure. I plan on a couple more days just to be sure it is all cured. 


Where I had a perpindicular joint of 2 plexi pieces I drilled a hole through, or into, both pieces and filled the hole with epoxy. The perticual type of epoxy is extremely stong. It is Hysol 1c. Don't know if it is reef safe but just in case I covered all areas with silicone.
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Most people's refugium/ sump has three compartments. A skimmer section where the water comes in. A refugium section and a return section. With a 10 g u are going to be really strapped for space though. I would go bigger if u can. I wouldn't have a sump without a bubble trap between the fudge and return section. I have always waited for petco to do there $1 per gallon sale and bought the biggest tank I could fit. I then buy glass from home depot or lowes cut to size and silicone my sections with GE silicone I.
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I have never used a carbon filter. I always have put activated carbon in a mesh bag and hung it in a height flow area of my sump.
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sweet thanks guys.

now I need a return pump and someone to help with some math? Big smile
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Make sure your acrylic baffles are not a tight fit, acrylic expands over time and will crack the glass tank. Leave about an 1/8" gap on both sides and use lots of silicone to hold it in place. Or an even better idea is to go get glass cut to your needs and it will look and hold up much better in the long run. Glass is very cheap. 
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Originally posted by Elite-Aquatics Elite-Aquatics wrote:

Make sure your acrylic baffles are not a tight fit, acrylic expands over time and will crack the glass tank. Leave about an 1/8" gap on both sides and use lots of silicone to hold it in place. Or an even better idea is to go get glass cut to your needs and it will look and hold up much better in the long run. Glass is very cheap. 


cool yeah i might just do glass inserts. (had no idea acrylic would expand) ive now seen a few examples and now really unsure what a good way to do it is. ive seen the skimmer in middle and on the side but if its on the side how is that so efficient when it should hit the skimmer first? any suggestions?
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Usually when i see the skimmer in the middle its becuase they have the incoming water go thru a filter sock to collect the larger particles, then the skimmer, then refuge (if used), then the return pump... but i could be mistaken
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yeah. I think Ive got an idea now .
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This site helped me when I was building my sump/refugium 

http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html
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Originally posted by papa-squid papa-squid wrote:

...Ive seen the skimmer in middle and on the side but if its on the side how is that so efficient when it should hit the skimmer first? any suggestions?
The skimmer works great where it cleans some of the water flowing past.
I haven't used a skimmer on most of my reef aquariums. There just isn't any real need.
I use a $6 plastic storage tub without baffles. A good growth of Chaetomorpha prevents bubbles from reaching the return pump, but if bubbles become a problem, a floss bag under the drain pipe is easy. The way I do it, there is a lot more room for a very useful sand bed and Macroalgae under an inexpensive $10 HD special light fixture. The powerhead return pump is placed in a tupperware container pushed down into the sand, keeping sand from entering the pump.
Let's see, I think I have a picture somewhere....this was the Refugium for a 120 gal system that made me $400 per month in SPS, LPS and Soft coral frag sales from 2005-2007.



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Originally posted by jason10012 jason10012 wrote:

This site helped me when I was building my sump/refugium 

http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html

I've been loving that site.
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You are probably done with this project by now, but I thought I would chime in anyways. Regional supply... I am a huge fan of their scrap bin lol. We also used a 10 gallon tank for the sump to our frag tank. We have a pretty nice bubble trap that was made with acrylic. We have the sock and skimmer in the first compartment, rubble rock and a butt load of macro in the middle compartment, and the return with a bag of carbon in the third compartment. I think it works perfect, yes a little cramped, but it gets the job done and our tank is pretty happy.

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