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    Posted: January 21 2011 at 8:40pm
So i set up a new tank, with all new water using coralife salt, as of today my am nitrate and nitrite are all 0, so while i was testing im like, what the hay lets test cal and alk. So my alk is around 8.4 (I hate seachem's alk test, so broad) and i lost count of cal when it was around 600 so it probably is higher, nothing to worry about right? 
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As long as your Magnesium and Alk are in line it's fine but keep an eye on these other two levels. An abnormally high reading in one may indicate a deficiency in one of the others.

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could the high levels in everything have anything to do with the fact that its filled with all freshly mixed water?
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Sure,
 
A good salt mix should have an adequate amount of all the essential elements. Somehow I missed the part of it being a newly setup tank. Every salt mix is a little different. I think everything is fine.
 
Good luck with the new tank and keep us posted as it progresses.
 
 
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I don't remember Coralife salt being high in Calcium, but maybe it is. Like Burt, I wouldn't worry too much about it. But now that you know, be sure not to add Calcium but only Alkalinity when the time comes. Since you are doing this testing and it seems that you are interested to get our help, feel free to post pics and ask for our suggestions along the way. Did you use the four live components to start up this tank?
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I used live sand and rock out of my 60g thats being broken down, what other componets are you speaking of>
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well if you mean like water from my display, no i didnt, i had my reasons of doing so, but the nano cube does not have a fuge, i need to buy a hob fuge that does not break the bank.
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Have you read the thread linked below?;  Reefkeeping Tips It talks about one more extremely important component; Macroalgae. The use of each of these four living things can make a big difference in the first few months of a successful reef aquarium

"if you mean like water from my display, no i didnt, i had my reasons of doing so"
What's this mean?
Actually LW is the least important of the four components.

I checked and found that Coralife salt mix is indeed high in Calcium. This mix and Oceanic always need to have a baking soda solution added as an Alkalinity supplement. It's not any bother right now but will eventually need your assistance.


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the reason i didnt add any water from my display is while i was breaking down my 60g display and i found a casualty, a marron clown, poor guy tried to hide in some rock and got suck and killed himself, i tested the water and there was some ammonia probably due to his death, 4 days before that when i tested there was none.
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Ah, that makes sense.
Sorry for your loss.Cry
Good Macroalgae can eat up all the Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate in a day. I love Algae. It is so useful. A tank I set up just over a month ago never saw a "cycle" and never had any of the brown algae typical of new tank startup because of a ball of Cheatomorpha.
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So maybe you could help me, this is what the back of a nano cube looks like


Going from left to right here are the compartments, 1:return 2:heater chamber 3: filter tray 4:skimmer 5: return, the overflow goes straight into the filter tray, so maybe what i should do, correct me if you think im wrong, is remove the filter tray and put cheato there, the protein skimmer (which i probably am going to replace with a remora) is just one of those cheapies that uses the airstones. Then for filtration I can do a canister filter that the imput comes from one return and empties into another. Or do you think i should not bother with any of that and just do a hob fuge?


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also mark im out of salt, what other salt would you suggest so i dont need to always add baking soda.
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A canister filter accomplishes just a tiny bit of filtration. If I used it at all it would just be for running AC 2 wks/mo.

It's a great idea to use the back chamber as a place to grow algae and if it can be lighted at night and not be too bright in the room that's even better. Use as much of that chamber as possible, removing all other stuff, just leaving some sponge or something to keep algae from clogging the pumps.

Instant Ocean or any other salt is good. I'm not saying that Oceanic and Oceanlife aren't good. Later, when there is good coral growth, Alkalinity has to be added anyway, because the coral eat it up, no matter what salt mix is used.
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is there a way to grow macro in my tank without any snails eating it. i do not have a sump and only a canister filter.
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Most snails do not eat macro algae, and good macro will grow too fast for anything to eat it down to nothing. 




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Other than baking soda, is there anything else to use with it to bring up alkalinity?
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Originally posted by CapnMorgan CapnMorgan wrote:

 
solastsummer- I agree with Mark. Canister filters are just big nitrate generators. I would skip the canister filter and just use a mesh bag of AC (Activated Carbon) for a couple weeks every month.


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Originally posted by phys phys wrote:

Other than baking soda, is there anything else to use with it to bring up alkalinity?

You can buy commercial buffers but baking soda is your cheapest option.
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