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mr.magoo 
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Posted: April 29 2010 at 8:50pm |
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Where to go to go to get Utah rock and sand ? I know it is some where out by the great salt lake out off of I-80 I would like to use this in my tank the rock and sand. I am just looking for some directions out there. Or if anyone has some thier willing to part with?
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Posted: April 29 2010 at 8:57pm |
http://geology.utah.gov/utahgeo/rockmineral/collecting/oolitic.htmBring home more than you would need. If you need one bucket, bring home two.
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 12:54am |
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Maybe we ought to get some folks and plan a trip out to Stansbury Island soon for a sand and rock run. I'd be game!
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 9:58am |
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Does the BLM have a problem with harvesting the sand?
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 10:04am |
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Nope. As a taxpayer, you own BLM land. You just have to make sure you don't trespass onto private land, for which there is an abundance of signage.
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 10:18am |
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random question... if you collect rock and sand, do you also collect brine shrimp???
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 10:43am |
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So I am guessing that you are able to get the rock at the same place as the sand?
And is there any thing you need to do to the sand and rock when you get it home like cure it ect. ?
If so what is the process for doing these things before putting it in your tank?
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 11:04am |
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random question... if you collect rock and sand, do you also collect brine shrimp???
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Some do, but you have to find a different location. I have collected BS at the Marina before. You also have to check back at the lake every so often to see how many there are. They tend to be around in large numbers every couple weeks or so. It seems that when a hatch occurs you can net out thousands at a time, but between hatches you could spend a ton of time getting just a few.
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 11:05am |
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You generally don't get brine shrimp with the sand since you collect it from dry sand dunes, but you do of course have to wash the sand. As for curing the rock, it's recommended to wash it with high-pressure spray (like at a car wash - without the soap of course) to dislodge any dirt or organic matter. After that you can treat it like any other dead rock. As for where to find good rock, hopefully someone else will have a suggestion. My one trip last year wasn't tremendously fruitful.
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Posted: April 30 2010 at 11:12am |
mr.magoo wrote:
So I am guessing that you are able to get the rock at the same place as the sand?
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In some areas you can find them together. It's been a long time since I've collected either, but when I went the locations we collected rock were a couple miles from the location we collected the sand. They were both on Stansbury Island though.
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And is there any thing you need to do to the sand and rock when you get it home like cure it ect. ? If so what is the process for doing these things before putting it in
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Most people like to wash the rock with a power washer. Some even go to the car wash and use their power washer. Just be sure you DO NOT use soap when washing them at the car wash. If you plan to set up a new tank with this rock you will want to also add some "Live" rock to help seed it. In my experience LBTR is very good stuff, but without some life to jump start it, it will take a very long time indeed to really "liven up". As for the sand I like to wash about half a 5 gallon bucket at a time. Just fill the bucket and rinse and rinse and rinse until the water runs clear. Otherwise you'll have so much dust in your tank that it takes forever to settle.
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 4:12am |
mr.magoo No one is going too tell u where PM ME ad ill tell u how to get there I went out there last year It took me 3 months before someone took me out there and showed me lol so just PM ME and ill tell u.!!
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 10:23am |
Brandon1985 wrote:
mr.magoo No one is going too tell u where PM ME ad ill tell u how to get there I went out there last year It took me 3 months before someone took me out there and showed me lol so just PM ME and ill tell u.!! |
I left him a link with specific directions from BLM on where it's ok to collect the sand.
I went out two weeks ago with those directions and dug up two buckets.
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 1:18pm |
how good is this rock and sand? is it dense? or light?
lots of holes or solid?
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 1:40pm |
sterling18 wrote:
I went out two weeks ago with those directions and dug up two buckets. |
And you didn't invite any of us....  I'm kidding I couldn't have gone any way.
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 2:13pm |
Lewy wrote:
sterling18 wrote:
I went out two weeks ago with those directions and dug up two buckets. |
And you didn't invite any of us.... I'm kidding I couldn't have gone any way. |
I was on the reef tour and passed by.
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 2:21pm |
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Do you really have to dig or is it more of a skim the top type of process?
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 7:01pm |
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You have to dig down about 6" before you hit the really good stuff. As for the rock most times it requires a sledge hammer or pick and some elbow grease. Most of the rock is fairly dense so it is best used for base rock IMO
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 7:36pm |
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It's pretty cool that you can say you harvested that sand that's in your tank.
Edited by sterling18 - May 04 2010 at 7:37pm
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 8:36pm |
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I completely agree. I have used Utah sand in several refugiums, as well as in my 10 gallon Frogfish tank. DIY is really an awesome part of the hobby.
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Posted: May 04 2010 at 11:42pm |
CapnMorgan wrote:
You have to dig down about 6" before you hit the really good stuff. As for the rock most times it requires a sledge hammer or pick and some elbow grease. Most of the rock is fairly dense so it is best used for base rock IMO |
At the place I collect sand it's all good, even at the surface. And the Utah Rock I collect is more porous and better looking than most LR. It's primo stuff. Let me know if you want some.
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