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    Posted: November 10 2006 at 12:05pm
do you have to have a calcium reactor to have nice coral and if not is there a way to keep coral just as nice without or does anyone know a easy diy for one
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Very few people use calcium reactors.  On this site you'll actually find a surprising number who do.  I'll bet 10.
But it is totally not needed.  My tank has been up 5 months and just this week I tested the water for the first time.  Alk at 12 and Calcium at 375.  See Jon, told you testing and measuring was a waste of time.
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I have a calcium reactor, check readings and do it all and don't have nice coral.  Don't ask me why.  I don't think it's key as long as you check your readings.  You can dose with Calcium and Alkalinity and be fine.  You just have to be faithful in doing so.
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Home made two part addative (calcium and alk) added daily is the way I do it. Works Great! It gets annoying to do it after a while so I set up a dosing pump to add it without my help.
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Well, Adam, come to my place- I struggle with keeping calcium above 340 and alkalinity at about 8.0 dKH.  I dose both kalkwasser and home-made two-part every day (sometimes twice a day if the levels are low).  Is a calcium reactor necessary in my opinion?  Not for most people.  Does it make life easier w/ large demands for calc/alk?  YES.  The constant ritual of dosing eases.  Notice that I qualified my statement that demand and your attention to dosing regularly will tell you if you should think about a calcium reactor.
 
If you want to save money in the long run and you have a high demand, a calcium reactor is a good way to go.
 
Simple as that, IMHO.


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The beauty of a reactor imo is that I can get it dialed in and completely forget about it for 4 months (until the CO2 bottle runs out or the sand is all dissolved).  Before adding my reactor I was adding buffer and calcium every few days.  It became a hassle for me.  The reactor was truly a set and forget gadget for me.
 
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I do the same thing with a dosing pump. Get it working and dosing the right amount and don't worry about it for 2-3 months when the fluids run out. The problem with a dosing pump though is they are costly (Not as costly as a calcium reactor though). I am working on a solution to that though.

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A CA reactor is definitely not needed... I use SeaChem Reef Builder and Reef Calcium Advantage every few days.  It doesn't take much longer than feeding the tank once you have your recipe figured out  I only spend a few minutes a week to initially calculate the recipe then a few minutes a month to verify it...
 
I do have a DIY CA reactor but it just sits out in the shed...  Someday I will pull the media out of it and make frag plugs.
 
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so can anyone share there home made recipe?

 

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Originally posted by jnjleavitt jnjleavitt wrote:

so can anyone share there home made recipe?

 
There are many ways to supplement for calcium and alkalinity.  When I have store credit or enough cash,  I will buy the 4 kg tubs of SeaChem Reef Builder(alk) and Reef Calcium Advantage(Ca). 
 
I monitor my calcium and alkalinity over a period of time adjusting the supplements as needed.  After a few weeks I usually get my "Recipe" dialed in.  Then I will check it every month or so to see if any adjustments are needed.
 
When I am broke and out of supplements, I will use pickling lime for kalkwasser and baking soda to maintain Ca and Alk.  In my tanks, kalkwasser will usually not maintain the alkalinity so I have to add a few table spoons every few days.
 
I now have a chiller on my tank and don't have near the evaporation that I use to have so I doubt that kalkwasser will keep up.  If it does not, when the time comes, I will go ice melter shopping and get some Dow flakes to supplement Ca...
 
Here is a link that you may find very useful when dealing with reef chemistry: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102605
 
 
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This entire thread may be useful to you, including the standard, widely used recipe for Alkalinity and Calcium additives:

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  Thank you all so much for the help. I can't seem to find much help at local pet storesDisapprove.
  BTW does any one know where to find a good place to get coral at a fair price I am in Kearns and the stores around here all what ALOT for coral. Like pets n such, pet planet and marine world. Thanks again
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Marine Aquatics always have good deals on coral. They are in Midvale. Plus if you decide to join our club, you get an additional 10% off. This discount is good at a lot of our LFS stores.
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LFS don't have the time to give you the help you need, and many don't understand reef aquariums half as well as we do.

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