| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
sabeypets 
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
 Post Options
 Thanks(0)
 Quote  Reply
 Topic: Bangaii Cardinal
Posted: December 13 2014 at 7:18pm |
  I have a group of 18 adult Bangaii, one male had 12 babies, another other had 40
|
Shaun American Fork  "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
 |
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: December 17 2014 at 12:35am |
|
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
Mark Peterson
Paid Member
Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: December 17 2014 at 6:29am |
Don't you mean a week since release? They were about a week in daddy's mouth, right? It's great to see all those babies. Congratulations.
Aloha  |
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member 
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: December 17 2014 at 1:35pm |
Yes, one week since release. The male held them for 21 days, I'm not sure at what point they actually hatch, guessing around day 10?. Of all the breeding projects I have been involved with Bangaii Cardinals have took more time, effort, and I have been unsuccessful until now. I'm talking YEARS!!!! Thanks Mark.
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: December 26 2014 at 12:07am |
Not sure what is going on with these, they went 2 weeks with no problems. Now something up. 2 died 12/23 5 died 12/24 1 died 12/25 1 died 12/26 They get feed NHBBS several times a day, and 50% water change Daily. 5 gallon tank with a sponge filter.
Edited by sabeypets - December 26 2014 at 10:39pm
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
Molli
Guest
Joined: June 28 2012
Location: Bountiful, Utah
Status: Offline
Points: 1109
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: December 26 2014 at 11:22am |
 sabeypets wrote:
Not sure what is going on with these, they went 2 weeks with no problems. Now something up.
2 died 12/23 5 died 12/24 1 died 12/25 They get feed NHBBS several times a day, and 50% water change Daily. 5 gallon tank with a sponge filter.
|
With 50% water change daily, is it absolutely necessary to use the sponge filter? I'm asking because I'm wondering if there could be some bacteria collected on the filter that might be harmful to the tiny babies?
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: December 26 2014 at 10:38pm |
|
No a sponge filter is not necessary at all with 50% daily water changes. There could be some bacteria collected on the filter that might be harmful to the tiny babies but I'm not sure.
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
Cowan
Guest
Joined: June 02 2014
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 98
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: December 31 2014 at 4:09pm |
|
Sabey- do you have your adults in their own tank? I have a breeding pair in my tank with the other fish but have a hell of a time trying to capture the male when he is about ready to release the babies. He has a habit of only releasing a few at a time and hides in the rocks to do it so I only get a few at a time if I am lucky. I also have an 8 gallon tank where I keep the babies once they are caught, but I don't know the best way to catch all the babies once they are released. Any suggestions?
|
|
RSM 250
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: January 01 2015 at 6:55pm |
|
I keep them in a 360gal reef, I just catch the male when he is ready to release them. If they are released into my reef tank they are gone (eaten) in a mater of minutes.
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 14 2015 at 10:58am |
|
More babies!!! Another 60 plus babies last night.
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
Molli
Guest
Joined: June 28 2012
Location: Bountiful, Utah
Status: Offline
Points: 1109
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 14 2015 at 11:30am |
|
Congrats!
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 18 2015 at 11:20am |
Molli wrote:
Congrats! |
Thanks Molli
Had another 30 plus hatch yesterday! that makes close to 100 this week!!!!
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
proskier101
Guest
Joined: December 12 2014
Location: Sandy
Status: Offline
Points: 316
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 19 2015 at 10:27am |
sabeypets wrote:
Molli wrote:
Congrats! |
Thanks Molli
Had another 30 plus hatch yesterday! that makes close to 100 this week!!!! |
you should keep them all. These are increasingly RARE fish.
|
|
Mark Peterson
Paid Member
Joined: June 19 2002
Location: Murray
Status: Offline
Points: 21436
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 19 2015 at 2:19pm |
That's awesome Shaun. For that many baby Bangaii, I would do a regular tank of at least 30 gals with good LS bed with tons of life, a pile of LR rubble, and tons of algae all over to provide good live bug spawn and live bug larvae for them to eat. If possible, plumb this separate tank as part of the system where the Bangaii parents are living. Two important advantages to this are, 1) the water is essentially the same as what they hatched in and 2) water changes are unnecessary, except as the larger system receives new water.
Here is a Mike Savage pic (my TOTM) of a good environment for Bangaii.
For Cowan, there is an easy way to capture the babies. I believe it has been written here on the forum several times. It talks about waiting until tails are poking out of Dad's mouth or just before, sneaking up on the tank after dark, flipping the lights on and immediately netting Dad, who often releases the babies right into the net. This was the technique in the the pic below. One of the released babies is visible above/behind Dad's first dorsal fin.
Aloha, Mark
Edited by Mark Peterson - February 19 2015 at 2:31pm
|
Reefkeeping Tips, & quick, easy setup tricks:www.utahreefs.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9244 Pay it forward - become a paid WMAS member
|
|
Pete Moss
Guest
Joined: March 26 2010
Location: Roy UT
Status: Offline
Points: 2114
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 19 2015 at 2:53pm |
|
Shaun you keep doing your fish raising thing!
The hobby needs more tank raised fish, you're a total champ!
Will you let me know when your tank raised fish are available for sale? I plan on only stocking tank raised and would be more than willing to make the trip to American Fork.
Edited by Pete Moss - February 19 2015 at 2:55pm
|
|
125g 90g 2x33g 34g
What stores do I recommend?
Up North: Bill ( Saltwater Paradise 801-317-8115 )
Down South: Jerry ( Reef On 801-563-0600 )
Member of GCFB
|
|
Molli
Guest
Joined: June 28 2012
Location: Bountiful, Utah
Status: Offline
Points: 1109
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 19 2015 at 5:36pm |
Pete Moss wrote:
The hobby needs more tank raised fish, you're a total champ!
|
Agreed.
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 20 2015 at 12:37am |
|
I got another 13 tonight! I didn't see this male till tonight and I think he all ready released most of them. That makes over 100 just in the last week.
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 20 2015 at 12:51am |
Mark Peterson wrote:
That's awesome Shaun.For that many baby Bangaii, I would do a regular tank of at least 30 gals with good LS bed with tons of life, a pile of LR rubble, and tons of algae all over to provide good live bug spawn and live bug larvae for them to eat. If possible, plumb this separate tank as part of the system where the Bangaii parents are living. Two important advantages to this are, 1) the water is essentially the same as what they hatched in and 2) water changes are unnecessary, except as the larger system receives new water.
Here is a Mike Savage pic (my TOTM) of a good environment for Bangaii.
For Cowan, there is an easy way to capture the babies. I believe it has been written here on the forum several times. It talks about waiting until tails are poking out of Dad's mouth or just before, sneaking up on the tank after dark, flipping the lights on and immediately netting Dad, who often releases the babies right into the net. This was the technique in the the pic below. One of the released babies is visible above/behind Dad's first dorsal fin.
Aloha, Mark
|
Mark thanks for the info. I have them in 5 and 10 gallon bare bottom tanks, a little macro algae, and a sponge filter. No LR, no LS, not plumbed, and I wish I had more macro algae with lots of good bugs  .
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
sabeypets
Admin Group
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1483
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 20 2015 at 12:54am |
|
Thanks Pete and Molli.
|
Shaun American Fork "Would you leave a dead cat in your kitchen till tommorow?" Builderofdreams
|
|
Pete Moss
Guest
Joined: March 26 2010
Location: Roy UT
Status: Offline
Points: 2114
|
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: February 20 2015 at 6:33am |
|
Seriously, I want to buy some. Badly.
|
|
125g 90g 2x33g 34g
What stores do I recommend?
Up North: Bill ( Saltwater Paradise 801-317-8115 )
Down South: Jerry ( Reef On 801-563-0600 )
Member of GCFB
|
|
